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  Bible Fraud

  by radar in

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  here is an extract from the book: the bible fraud, by tony bushby.. some may find this a revelation!.

  just who were the parents of jesus christ?

  in the opening sentence of a new testament parable, jesus stated:.

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  Why are witnessess persecuted?

  by YoYoMama in

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  why are witnessess persecuted?

  most religions out there have this thing against witnesses.

  many will do anything to get them banned or to shut their mouths.

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  Last night, my 15 year-old son told me he couldn't understand why JW's think they are persecuted. He told me that when he was sitting on the Golden Princess cruise ship with my Dub sister and her husband a couple of weeks ago, this very thing came to his mind.

  He said to me, "Here they are on a Caribbean cruise, being waited on hand and foot, a Corona beer with lime in their hand, and living a good life. How can they think they are persecuted?" He thought it was rather hypocritical.

  He also added that they make themselves the victims and that is not healthy.

  Some wise observations from a 15 year old.

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
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  But, we want to be free!!

  by ThiChi in

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  man: we want to be free, and want no god telling us how to live.. god: fine, do your own thing.. after numerous murders, genocide, and other evils, we hear this:.

  man: i can't believe in a god who would allow all this evil to happen .

  and not intervene to prevent it.. god: why not?

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  FreePeace

  "Free Peace," yea, right!

  Hey, I think I've been insulted!

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  Questions for Those in an Alcoholic Relationship

  by FreePeace in

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  these questions are aimed at non-alcoholic ex-jw's who have survived or left an alcoholic relationship.. given that the bible says god hates a divorcing, to what extent did religious beliefs keep you in the alcoholic relationship?.

  to what extent did peer pressure from the congregation keep you in the relationship?.

  what made you decide to leave the alcoholic relationship when you did?.

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  FreePeace

  Hi Francios,

  Thanks for your great comments!

  You said:

  Why would anyone wish to stay in such a one-sided contract, enabling their own destruction?

  I couldn't agree more! And I do not believe they should.

  You also said:

  Why would anyone want to provide a technique for anyone to justify staying in such a relationship?

  Perhaps I was not clear above. I am not developing a technique to help someone stay in an alcoholic relationship. That has already been done with Al-Anon.

  My program goes much further and actually endeavors to resolve the situation. Basically, there are only 2 alternatives:

  1. The alcoholic recovers; or
  2. The non-alcoholic leaves.

  I believe far too many non-alcoholics stay far too long in grossly dysfunctional alcoholic relationships resulting in great harm to the family.

  For more info on my approach, visit http://www.empoweredrecovery.com

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  Questions for Those in an Alcoholic Relationship

  by FreePeace in

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  these questions are aimed at non-alcoholic ex-jw's who have survived or left an alcoholic relationship.. given that the bible says god hates a divorcing, to what extent did religious beliefs keep you in the alcoholic relationship?.

  to what extent did peer pressure from the congregation keep you in the relationship?.

  what made you decide to leave the alcoholic relationship when you did?.

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  FreePeace

  These questions are aimed at non-alcoholic ex-JW's who have survived or left an alcoholic relationship.

  Given that the Bible says “God hates a divorcing,” to what extent did religious beliefs keep you in the alcoholic relationship?

  To what extent did peer pressure from the congregation keep you in the relationship?

  What made you decide to leave the alcoholic relationship when you did?

  Thank you in advance for your responses. My questions are part of my research in developing a program for non-alcoholics to survive an alcoholic relationship, and the things that hold them back.

  You may e-mail me privately if you wish: [email protected]

  Doug
  http://www.empoweredrecovery.com

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  Visits

  by PhilBot in

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  just so happens that when u want ppl there not there?.

  if thejo's witness dont celebrate xmas then they should not mind visiting me on xmas day because no one eles will be doing... il apreciate the co.. if nothing else!.

  address can be added later if reqested..

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  FreePeace

  Welcome PhilBot to the forum!

  With all due respect, what in the hell are you talking about?

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  But, we want to be free!!

  by ThiChi in

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  man: we want to be free, and want no god telling us how to live.. god: fine, do your own thing.. after numerous murders, genocide, and other evils, we hear this:.

  man: i can't believe in a god who would allow all this evil to happen .

  and not intervene to prevent it.. god: why not?

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  FreePeace

  I was one of the first to view this post as it came up. There were so many instantaneous reasons that came into my head as to why the above post is utterly pathetic and stupid that I didn't want to waste my time refuting it.

  I have to commend SixofNine for putting my many thoughts so succinctly:

  *clap clap*

  breathtakingly stupid!

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  Purpose of life

  by ItsJustMe in

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  the ageold question that i'm sure we have all given some degree of thought to...what is the purpose of life?

  anyone have a theory/opinion they would like to share?.

  my personal opinion on this is not solid enough yet to be considered a belief.

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  FreePeace

  Here is my 2 part definition of the meaning of life as discussed in my book, "The Game Rules for Life" ( http://www.empowerthespirit.com/gamerule):

  1. Uncover/Discover the Things Hidden In and Through Creation; and Find Personal Enjoyment and Fulfillment in the Process.

  2. Leave the Woodpile a Little Higher Than You Found It.

  Of course, there is much more to it, but these are the basics. You may want to read "Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl. In that book, he discusses "Logotherapy," which is a meaning-based psychotherapy. It makes a lot of sense.

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  Do You Remember...

  by Undecided in

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  do the congregations still have handbills that they hand out with the public talk advertised on them?.

  when i was po we had to schedule the speakers from the different congregations in the circuit and have the society print them for us.

  we had to travel 50 to 100 miles on sunday mornings, get up early to make it for field service, then have dinner with someone in the congregation, then give the "talk" at 3:00pm.

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  Hey Ken, unless something has changed in the past 2 years, they don't do the handbill thing anymore. Haven't done it for many years. The last time I remember handbills was for a DO's special talk at an assembly in the early '80's. It is possible they do it for special occasions, but I don't think so.

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS
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  This Bible Not Original

  by FreePeace in

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  here is an interesting article by a local columnist that underscores the invalidity of the christian religion as god's chosen one.

  it also casts serious doubt on the bible as well as jesus' originality.

  this is really nothing new to those of us who have researched it.. http://www.sun-herald.com/newsarchive2/122301/cl2.htm?date=122301&story=cl2.htm.

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  Here is an interesting article by a local columnist that underscores the invalidity of the Christian religion as God's chosen one. It also casts serious doubt on the Bible as well as Jesus' originality. This is really nothing new to those of us who have researched it.

  http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/122301/cl2.htm?date=122301&story=cl2.htm

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  The Golden Rule is universal to all religious faiths
  By Lindsey Williams columnist

  As the religious season for Christians, Jews and Muslims nears an end for this year - while some believers are at war with each other - cynics are entitled to ask if there is no central truth all faiths can share?

  All three religions are founded on one God, though with different names and different prophets. Yet, denominations within the faiths, and between faiths, are earnestly killing each other and invoking God in the process.

  Protestants versus Catholics in Ireland. Muslims and Jews against each other in Israel and Palestine. Sunni Muslims versus Shiite Muslims in Iraq. Taliban Muslims fight moderate Afghan Muslims. Orthodox Catholics and Muslims experiment with "ethnic cleansing" in the Balkans.

  The United States welcomes all religions and protects them constitutionally. However, it seems constantly engaged in squabbles over the propriety of public displays of Nativity scenes, menorahs, crosses, Stars of David, angels, decorated pine trees and billows of yard lights.

  Special religious days are marked on most American calendars -- Saint Patrick, Hanukkah, Thanksgiving, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, Palm Sunday, Passover, Easter, Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur and Ramadan.

  Halloween and Valentine Day are ancient religious occasions still observed but have lost sacred meaning. Santa Claus is on the way to usurping Christ-mass.

  Despite U.S. tolerance, religious terrorists murder Americans and destroy their property -- specifically because we don't take sides in religious disputes.

  On what, then, can we all agree?

  The answer has been known for centuries as the Golden Rule, and is encoded in every religious faith. It is worthwhile pausing in our present holiday mood, amidst troubling world events, to review the many ways the universal truth is expressed.

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  "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." - Judaism, Leviticus 19:18.

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  "A certain heathen came to Shammai and said to him, 'Make me a proselyte, on condition you teach me the whole Torah while I stand on one foot.' Thereupon Shammai repulsed him with the rod which was in his hand. When the heathen went to Hillel, the latter said to him, 'What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah. All the rest of it is commentary. Go and learn.'" - Judaism, Talmud, Shabbat 31a.

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  "Do not do unto others what angers you if done to by others." - Greek philosopher Socrates, 400 BCE.

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  "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?' Jesus said to him, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets." - Christianity, Bible, Matthew 22:326-40.

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  "Whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them." - Jesus Christ, Matthew. 7:12.

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  "Not one of you is a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." - Islam, Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi 13.

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  "One should not behave towards others in a way which is disagreeable to oneself." - Hinduism, Parva 113.8.

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  "Tsekung asked, 'Is there one word that can serve as a principle of conduct for life?' Confucious replied, 'It is the word shu, reciprocity. Do not do to others what you do not want them to do to you'." - Confucianism, Analects 15.23.

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  "A state that is not pleasant or delightful to me must also be to him; and a state that is not pleasing or delightful to me, how could I inflict that upon another?" - Buddhism, Samyutta Nikaya 353.

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  "Comparing oneself to others in such terms as 'Just as I am, so are they, and just as they are so am I,' he should neither kill nor cause others to kill." -- Buddhism, Sutta Nipata 705.

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  "One going to take a pointed stick to pinch a baby bird should first try it on himself to feel how it hurts." - Yoruba Proverb, Nigeria.

  Lindsey Williams is a Sun columnist

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
  TruthQuest: http://beam.to/truthquest
  Who Am I? -How to Reinvent Yourself After Leaving the WTS