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  Silent Lambs march on Brooklyn Headquarters

  by sacrebleu in

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  here is the link to the news footage.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=53ju4g7ia4.

  if this doesn't work just search for it on you tube.

  i can't get my computer to copy and paste on this forum.. i don't know when this aired.

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  Wow, thank you for telling me. Some of this stuff is new to me. I know about Bill Bowen and Silent Lambs, but individual instances escape me since I don't have cable. Sorry folks.

  It is horrible though, isn't it??

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  Silent Lambs march on Brooklyn Headquarters

  by sacrebleu in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  here is the link to the news footage.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=53ju4g7ia4.

  if this doesn't work just search for it on you tube.

  i can't get my computer to copy and paste on this forum.. i don't know when this aired.

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  sacrebleu

  Here is the link to the news footage.

  http://youtube.com/watch?v=53JU4g7Ia4

  If this doesn't work just search for it on you tube. I can't get my computer to copy and paste on this forum.

  I don't know when this aired. Does anyone know when this aired? Has anyone seen it on TV?

  I don't have cable.

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  When did you STOP considering yourself a JW ? ? ? ?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any particular event sparked this change of heart ?.

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  sacrebleu

  HEY! That was my 100th post! What do I get for that? LOL

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  When did you STOP considering yourself a JW ? ? ? ?

  by JH in

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  any particular event sparked this change of heart ?.

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  The day a visiting elder (probably a circuit servant or whatever) told me "YOU ARE NO JEHOVAH'S WITNESS!" because I hadn't been out in service in 6 months.

  He didn't ask after my health, finances, marriage, children or ANYTHING. Just told me I was no jehovah's witness.

  At first I was devastated but then I realized that if you had to be that hateful, judgmental and just generally awful maybe I really WASN'T!

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  Must JWs Confirm They're JWs?

  by Simon G Best in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was just wondering.

  is there some sort of doctrine, or belief, principle, rule or whatever, that says that jehovah's witnesses, when asked, must confirm that they're jehovah's witnesses?

  (one possible basis for such a rule, that comes to mind, is the bit about peter denying jesus three times before the cock crowed.).

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  Got to disagree with Blues Brother,

  Denying Jesus is not the same as denying the lying, thieving, killing, heartless, gutless, merciless, money hungry Watchtower. At least not to me.

  Sorry

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  If you were given $1M.....

  by Jourles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...and the only stipulation for spending it was that you had to use it in some way against the wts, how would you use the money?

  a tv campaign?

  radio?

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  I got it! I would provide the best legal eagles to help X-JW parents fight for custody of their innocent, minor children! Yay!

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  If you were given $1M.....

  by Jourles in

  1. jw
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  ...and the only stipulation for spending it was that you had to use it in some way against the wts, how would you use the money?

  a tv campaign?

  radio?

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  I like Watson and Katie Kitten's ideas best. I can't top them. I'll have to think.........

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  This is the day you were born...

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

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  2. friends

  so this is the day that princess daisy boo entered the world, 30 years ago.. last night, my mom called and in the course of the conversation she say something along the lines of " thirty years ago today i was in labour - how does it feel to be almost 30... and then carried on about something random.

  so my question to you all is this... how do your dub family or friends acknowledge your birthday, or do they?

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  Happy Birthday Boo and oppgirl,

  When all of us girls were in, we used to call and say "I am glad you were born."

  My JW sister just sent me an email the other day acknowledging that I had a birthday last month, but all she said was "you are another year older and so am I." Her birthday was in August.

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  How Many Are...Or Have Been Going To Therapy?

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i only went twice right before i left in 2001.. my then jw wife.... thought in would be a good idea.

  she thought all "my angry issuses" were against my dead nazis jw mother.....they were really about me living a lie for over 10 years... so anyway...i went to this dr. and in just 2 visits, told him my whole life story,begining to end.

  he did't really say very much.. at the end of the whole thing i said "well doc...you can see that i'm pretty much screwed no matter what i do...if i stay in the cult i'm screwed...and if i leave i'm screwed!.

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  When I was so miserable because of health issues, two small children (one had major health issues) and being isolated in a community outside of town with no car during the day I got really depressed.

  Looking back now, I probably also had some post-natal depression as well as depression about doubting the JW garbage. I eventually became just about agoraphobic. When I approached my NON-JW perfectionist hubby about getting some therapy, his reaction was much like the elders would have been IF I'd asked them (which I didn't) He said, "NOT MY WIFE!!!!!!!!!"

  Pride can be bad, huh? I guess he thought it would make HIM look bad or something. ANYWAY, I decided if I was ever going to be better I would have to start somewhere. I could not go out to get the mail until the mail man had left our circle and all the other ladies had gone back in the house. I knew I didn't want to live that way or get worse.

  I had sold Avon in the past so I signed up again and at the first door, the lady just bought something because she felt sorry for me. But I kept it up and got over most of my fear. Soon I was cold calling on all my neighbors and making friends and a few dollars.

  Then I signed up for a General Psychology course. It was the best thing ever!!! I learned all about how big corporations control their work forces by keeping them busy with new and exciting projects. It's called Mass Behavior Modification. A 1000 watt light bulb went off and it was just one more thing to help me out of the borg.

  I hate to admit it still took some other things and more time to get completely out, but it did help. Then when I became disabled in 2003, I went to a counselor ( I divorced the hubby who would not "let" me go to the counselor and remarried someone more understanding). I saw a counselor because it was very hard to deal with the sudden weakness and disability. It really does a number on your self-esteem to be raised blue-collar and with no patience for "lazy" people and then end up disabled.

  Anyway, the main reason she was able to help me is that she herself was disabled. We also dealt with the issues of coming out of the borg. But this brings up a question. The main reason she could help me is that she had been through a similar experience. I guess any counselor can help you see how you have been screwed over and help you figure out what to do about it, but I would love to meet one who knows more about cults in general and JWs in particular. There is no one in my area.

  There is no insurance or $$$ for it either and the only free one here doesn't impress me much. I know some of his clients and they don't seem to get any better. But if there was someone I could talk to about some of the specific problems relating to losing family members, I would try to go.

  I HAVE received help from the local Celebrate Recovery group. It IS Christian based so some of you might not be interested. But I learned that when I continue to try to convince my JW sisters that I am a worth-while person I am being co-dependent. I am learning healthier behavior And I am making TRUE, REAL FRIENDS who dont' try to control me and they help me in my fight to recover the self-esteem and well being I lost with all the stuff that has happened to me. I would recommend it to anyone.

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  JW's Celebrating De Facto Thanksgiving

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perhaps one of the most innocuous of the "pagan" holidays witnesses are taught to avoid is the american holiday .

  of thanksgiving.

  without going into the thanksgiving story, if there is one, be assured that jw children steadfastly.

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  I got baptized at 16 and went without Thanksgiving along with all the rest. Married to an "unbeliever" I had turkey day with his parents each year. My sister and her family have a non-thanksgiving dinner every year for all the reasons you noted.

  My unbelieving husband always said that any meal you eat on thanksgiving day is the thanksgiving meal. He had a droll sense of humor and a cool logic. I agreed with him.

  I didn't realize my sister has a huge turkey in November for a long time until she told me.

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