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  How powerful - the Holy Spirit?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  holy spirit the power behind the creation of the universe, millions of galaxies, billions of stars.

  the energy flow required to achieve this is unimaginable.

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  AnneB

  You posted the topic for open discussion, I responded. You don't have to like what I said.

  If you recognize that the no smoking policy is a man made, arbitrary rule, and you choose not to follow it, why are you unhappy with the consequences?

  You say you take the spiritual counsel given by those in authority, but you also said you lied through your teeth to get reinstated. Did those in authority counsel you to do that as well? Their version of religion says that if you rely on Jehovah you will be helped by holy spirit. Did you rely or lie?

  If you choose to follow the WT way that's your decision, but your logic is faulty if you don't do what you are told and then expect the same results as if you did.

  Now, I'm done with this topic. I hope that you will see past your emotions to the logic of what I said. If you don't, well....it won't be me that's hurting.

  I sincerely wish you the best.

  AnneB
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  How powerful - the Holy Spirit?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  startfragment.

  holy spirit the power behind the creation of the universe, millions of galaxies, billions of stars.

  the energy flow required to achieve this is unimaginable.

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  AnneB

  To paraphrase departed Dan Sydlik: Why do you think God gave you a brain, and hands, and strength?

  There are some things you are meant to do for yourself! Funny, you didn't wait for the Holy Spirit to make you *start* smoking, so why should it help you stop? Your decision, your strength, your action. Same with the cases of illness such as the one you mentioned; people make decisions (even unwise ones), it's their right and prerogative; why would anyone expect the Holy Spirit to get involved? It's sad and terrible when people lose to seemingly random ailments or tragedies befall them that are not of their own making (tsunami's, dementia, etc.) but again, what has that to do with Holy Spirit? Holy Spirit didn't cause them so why should Holy Spirit be expected to fix things up?

  Look for sources, not scapegoats. Take responsibility for your own decisions. When the reason for tragedy (or anything else for that matter) isn't clear or isn't able to be tested satisfactorily, don't blame what you perceive on "Holy Spirit" as if it had shortcomings, rather, take it upon yourself to learn more than what you know now and give understanding a lot more time. Grieve if you need to, but don't join any lynching parties, you may find out later that it was you who was in the wrong.

  AnneB
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  Descended from animal? Explain language.

  by StopTheTears in

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  if, as evolutionists claim, all of mankind evolved from the same primitive life-source, then how did we end up with 7,000 different languages?

  did one gorilla get angry at another gorilla and decide to start a new language?

  i'm intrigued to know.. .

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  AnneB

  I like that tiny one first in line from the left. I think the gene for dancing came from him.
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  Bill Bowen of Silent Lambs?

  by PublishingCult in

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  apparently, i am so out of the loop and did not know bill bowen has been disfellowshipped from jwn.. could someone kindly give me the short version or post a link that lays out the narrative so that i can understand what happened with him .

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  AnneB

  Hopefully this won't degenerate into something less than "upbuilding"...

  The difference between any forum and any KH is that you know the rules before you go in.

  If you sign on in here, it means you've agreed to play by the rules. If you become a JW, they make up the rules as they go and don't bother to tell you they exist in the first place.

  Just use the Search feature to locate the information you are seeking.

  Be a friend of peace.
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  Have you built your MEMORY PALACE?

  by Terry in

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  it is any place you know so well your memory of it is intimate knowledge you simply will not forget.

  this, in turn, will serve as a mnemonic device or place of safekeeping for anything you wish to remember (forwards or backwards).. memory experts "build" a great many of these for various uses.. .

  1.a jar of pickled garlic (here is where you fix the item: imagine in your mind's eye smashing that jar in the middle of the driveway with the juice running out into the street and the pieces of garlic stinking up the neighborhood.

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  AnneB

  Or you could simply memorize whatever it is you're presently dealing with. It takes less storage space than all the games....and you won't have cream cheese cat **** stuck all over your newly filled memory cells!
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  Bill Bowen of Silent Lambs?

  by PublishingCult in

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  apparently, i am so out of the loop and did not know bill bowen has been disfellowshipped from jwn.. could someone kindly give me the short version or post a link that lays out the narrative so that i can understand what happened with him .

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  You'd be better off looking it up through past posts.
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  WHY DOES RELIGION BECOME VIOLENT?

  by Quentin in

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  almost without exception all major religons become violent at there inception, or not long after they have become established, why?

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  Well.... If you thought you had a message from the Great and Wonderful Supreme One, and people wouldn't listen to it, much less obey...

  It would be an affront to your dignity. Here you are giving of yourself for their benefit and they're a) ignoring you, b) laughing in your face, or c) persecuting you. It would be an affront to your God. (See a, b, and c above.) Then some fool comes along and tries to say that his god is better than your God....and the fight begins.
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  VIDEO. Violent bloody protest at the Memorial in Burgas, Bulgaria. 2011

  by 3Mozzies in

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  you will need to be signed in to youtube to see it, or go to the bulgarian website (link below).

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mupvrlg-i8g&.

  beat the pastors of jehovah's witnesses and wrecked their prayer house.. story from a bulgarian website - google translated.. .

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  AnneB

  I've never heard of anything like that in the states.

  You haven't??? Back in the old days (1940's and even into the '50's, blondie or someone can get the exact dates), JW's in the USA were beaten, put in jail, tarred and feathered, made to drink whole bottles of Castor Oil, all kinds of ill-treatment like that. Some of it happened in Kentucky, in the same Circuit that I was once in. Some of the people (including women!) that it happened to were still alive and could tell you first-hand what it was like. The stories are in the old Yearbooks, and some in the older Awake!'s. Up in Walkill area the farmers were planning an attack on WT property (and inhabitants). It went so far as the roads around the property being filled with cars full of men with mayhem in mind and until the last minute, the police were letting it go on.

  I'm not in that area any more but I am still in contact with non-JW locals. Even now people I know still talk about what they'd like to do to Kingdom Halls and Jehovah's Witnesses. The hate is not dead in the USA, it's still smoldering.

  AnneB
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  The latest July 15 WT - un-real.

  by just n from bethel in

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  i've been trying for some time to find the motiviation i needed to completely leave the cult behind.

  i'm mean, do it emotionally as well as mentally (whole-souled, right?

  ), despite still having a lot of family and friends that are cult members.

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  AnneB

  So people with degenerative brain diseases who can no longer 'actively support Jehovah's work' are now of Satan?!!

  "Active Support" can include door-to-door, phone witnessing, all those physical things, but it can also include donations. The ones too ill or feeble to turn in time can still turn in cash (credit cards also acceptable in some locations).

  For those whose backs are against the wall on the issue of "active support", remember, prayer counts too, and nobody can say you aren't doing it. Sister, are you actively supporting Jehovah's work? Oh, yes, Brother, I pray for the truth to be made manifest in every corner of the world!

  AnneB
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  God \ Universe

  by ballistic in

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  hi there, i don't claim this is true, it just came to me just now, perhaps you can point out any logical errors etc i've made or any other conclusions?.

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  there may be or may not be a god.. there is definately a universe.. the universe may have been created by god or may have come into existance of it's own accord.. neither the universe nor god can come into existance at a particular point in time as there was no time prior to the universe - it didn't exist.. only at the universe's creation did time begin therefore god never existed for a certain amount of time prior to it.. my conclusion is that god is the universe or the universe has always existed along with god?.

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  42. That's all we need to know.