i know that dubs think that apostasy set in quickly in the early church, but i am not certain how early the think that it set in.
do they think that it was in the apostolic fathers, directly after them, legalization of christianity, etc.
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I have never seen anything in any of their publications that puts in kind of certainty as to when the apostasy fully took hold.
According to JW's there have always been members of the Annointed on the earth..so there were always at least a few faithful Christians, those with correct understandings.
i need written proof in their own publications ..
Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.
I wonder if Truth In Advertising might be at issue here. That was their slogan for such a long time ("Advertise, advertise, advertise...").
The cigarette companies finally had to pay...
i was thinking rather humorously how to keep part mother earths brains the "internet" from being clogged with useless or misleading information that might cause moma to respond poorly,, kinda like our brains when they get chuck full of crap and we start hurting ourselve because we got a bad or faulty program running inside our mind.. so i was thinking of simons effort to stop this type of faulty useless information cluter in the space he has dedicated for jwd.
and i was thinking it might even be a good idea for a vote that goes like this:.
if you post something political and it is propaganda of a very biaed kind and a couple of member posters flag you on it and if it gets over a certain a certain amount you get an award or blue ribbon on you avatar saying you are in the lead and hold that award till someone passes you out and the ribbon get passes on to them,, and the mods can use this as a gage as to when to errase a post so as not to clog up mother earths brains with garbage..
And what are the mods going to do when the board owner holds the award?
i have been fading for years now and attend meetings very rarely these days.
but something happened recently to make me think about going regularly again.
a couple have returned to my congregation who used to be special pioneers here twenty years ago.
I think you're in mourning. There's a stage of mourning where the only things that are remembered are good; the happy moments, the love, the caring, all the things that you mentioned concerning that JW couple.
The reality is that even if such memories are based in fact, they're just that, memories. The reality is something much more harsh. Your desire for peace and calm must be balanced against all the disturbing elements in the WT world which you know well.
Ever watch a sci-fi or fantasy show where a person has a chance to go back in time or into another dimension where they can be with someone or something that they once loved? Some go for it, some don't. The ones who try to re-live their past can only succeed if they remain focused on just that one feature of their life and times, nothing else can exist for them. Do you have an ability like that; to block out literally everything else except the slender thread of beautiful memory connecting you to these people and to the org? Do you have the ability to sustain yourself indefinitely in what amounts to an artificial existence? Are you willing to let go of anything else to which you may have formed an attachment in order to live in an imaginary world?
Mourn, but don't lose yourself in mourning. Let the pleasant memories have a place in your heart but live in the present, stay rooted in reality.
A.
one time, a elder said like "heavenly father jehovah, thank you for the meetings.
i pray thru jesus name amen" i was so stunned it was a very short prayer.
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I've heard a couple of those one-liner "prayers" as well. They happen right after the congregation sings only one verse of the song so the elders can bring the meeting to a close on time.
Nice thing when a timeclock takes precedence over True Worship. (Hey Farkel, how do you make the little copyright symbol?)
terry gave me a copy of "in search of christian freedom"...no disrespect to ray franz...i am bored to tears....can't get past the frist chapter...soaked up coc, turned around and soaked it up again.... highly recomend coc to any jw (one that's not brain dead) or ex-jw (also not brain dead) who needs to know something about how the tower works....great book.... sigh, i seem to no longer have the attention span it takes to read a book of this depth....a sad commentary on me...has the internet dumbed some people down to the point that they can no longer read a book?
if that's what's happended somebody shoot me please... .
It's not you...ISoCF is far less riveting than CoC.
yes, i plan to break the 10 "witness commandments" on my birthday!
any idea's...did i miss any?
i can't think of ten!.
Learn to "act" instead of "react".
i've gone to many a witness dinner where i would bring one or two nice wines, hoping we would have some with dinner.
{to numb the boring conversations} only, to find the couple say "thanks" put it in the cabnet....and serve up lemonade..... and it's not an alcohol thing....two different brothers brought out there own "home made" vino instead, which taste like a mixture of fruit punch and vineger!
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When a guest brings food or drink to a pre-planned meal (not a picnic, pot luck or covered dish dinner) the item is not served with the meal but simply viewed as a gift. The guest's opinion on the matter is moot; they were invited to consume the meal, not contribute toward it.
In other words, if you want to eat/drink a particular thing, do it somewhere else or at another time. When you're invited to someone's house and accept the invitation, eat what's served without thinking about how you would have done it different.
Etiquette-AnneB
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we were heavily influenced by The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's recently-released two-album set called "Will the Circle be Unbroken" One time we tried to learn to play that song ("Circle") by sitting back to back in a circle (four of us), with our arms sort crossed, each of us plucking one instrument with our right hand, and fingering another instrument with our left hand. For example, I would sit with Jim on my left and Kory on my right, and Kenner behind me. I would hold my banjo to my left and pick it while Jim fingered it. Meanwhile, Kory would hold his mandolin to his left and pick it with his right hand, while I fingered it with my left.
Dissonance at its JW best.
no, this is not a joke.
having actually managed to survive through the entire 3 grueling days of the dc after attending the friday session today (hit sat and sun last weekend) i was initially going to make a criticism of some of the parts & points at the dc.
however, something that i witnessed today changed my mind.
On the other hand, put yourself in that woman's place: would you want 9,000 eyes staring at you while you were suffering?
It's a good thing that they kept the speechmaking going, sad that there was no acknowledgement later.
