hello everyone, i haven't been on the forum for quite a while.
i have been trying to move on with my life i guess and succeeding to some extent - got a new job and getting out and about more etc.
for anyone that remembers i have a jw son, his wife and a one year old grand daughter who i have been trying to keep in my life after deciding i didn't want to have anything to do with the cult myself.
Hey Maddie,
I have been wondering how you are doing. So so sorry to hear about this cruel blow. You're welcome to visit us anytime.
I believe a mutual friend of ours is having a BBQ at her place soon, please come Maddie !!. Would love to meet you.
All the best and keep in touch.
Love David.
is this the best of all possible worlds?.
had god created a world in which he invested humans with adherence to inner, god designed morality guidance--wouldn't an obedient (and far better off human race) world not have been "better" than the one we are in?.
free will is only the freedom to screw up.. think about this.. everything man designs is designed to function properly.
Maybe God didn't create this world the way it is today.
Who knows, there is no way we can find out. We only assume we know certain fundamentals about our world from what scientists tell us and what we observe. And scientists are just as flawed and dogmatic in their assumptions as religionists are.
I'm pretty sure we are in the dark on a lot of matters we thought we were enlightened about .... so begins homo ignoramus.
much has been commented here on how jw's rely on an ever-changing membership for keeping their 'the sky is falling, the world is ending' doctrine fresh.. recently it was posted that fully 2/3 of born-in jw's leave at some point, and i thought you might like to see how this works in practice.. so lets take sam and i and our extended families - we were both born and brought up jw's.
start with me.
mum and dad were converted in the 1950's.
Hi Besty nice to hear from you, how are things going in sunny LA?
Thanks for starting an intersting thread.
Here is my own JW generation tree.
Myself, I became a JW in the early nineties, no family are JW's and never will be. So I'll base this on my wife's
experience.
Her parents became JW's in the late 60's brought up 6 children.
Father active JW, passed away. Mother current active JW.
Current active JW = 1, Average age 64,
Eldest son left in his late teens, has children
but none are JW's . Future generations = 0
Out of her five sisters the eldest is a missionary, married mid 40's - unlikely to have kids.
Current Active JW's = 2, Average age 44, Future generation = 0
sister#2 - Married, both active JW's with 3 kids
Current Active JW's = 2, Average age 41, Future generation = possibly 3
sister#3 - active JW, unmarried and likley to remain unmarried and childless (I blame the organisation for this
as she pioneered during the best days of her life and gave up everything for them!!)
Current Active JW = 1 Average age 39, Future generation = 0
sister#4 - My wife, married, one child due in 3 weeks!! Both active faders ;-). Our children will not be brought
up as JW's.
Current Active = 0 Average age 35, Future generation = 0
sister#5 - disfellowshipped no interest in JW's, baby on the way, doubt it will be brought up as JW, although may
attend the odd meeting with grandma.
Current Active = 0 Average age 23, Future generation = 0
The future looks bleak if they are going to rely on families for future numbers, whilst they actively discourage
marriage (whether in or out of the org), and in having children. How short sighted!!
lived through one of the biggest earthquakes in 25 years last night.
5.2 on the rickter scale.
anyone else feel it?.
....Fishing by an active volcano where the sulphur mixes with the mist to sting your eyes and corrode your tackle.
That must have hurt....
from wales to london,,,4.7.
hope all are ok. orb.
We felt it last night about 1:00am, the house was shaking for about 10 seconds. We live in Bucks.
my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.
the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.
the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.
Your scaring me now, my wife is due in 9 weeks.!!
how many of you have managed to get your jw friends and family to see that it's not "the truth"?
I got my wife out and a good friend of mine.
i have been married for 10 years and have two wonderful step kids, 15 and 21. being a jw i did not want a child as life seemed so pointless.
things changed for the better since leaving and i am now the proud father of a big baby boy zac - 9pounds (4.1kg), 52cm long and huge lungs.
my wife is filipino so the baby looks very asian at the moment.
Congratulations!
Your wife and son are both beautiful.
I'm expecting my first in 9 weeks time too, can't wait.
All the best and thanks for all your hard work.
Regards
David.
in certain primitive societies it is believed that dancing brings rain.
this belief stems from the fact somebody (long, long ago) was dancing when rain broke out.
the next time there was a drought, dancing was begun.
Excellent thread Terry and so true,very insightful. I wish I could write like you.
Keep up the good work.
a 'doomsday' seedbank - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/svalbard_global_seed_vault .
renovations on camps potentially in preparation for disasters http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-hvpjpti4 .
incredible removals of basic rights - the us is way ahead of the uk on this - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2622692.ece .
Yes something seems to be afoot, i've noticed these things too. Noticed a lot of chemtrails over england in recent years. Could be some sort of weather modification programme. Maybe Katrina was a dry run? Problem Reaction Solution.
