is just how deep the witlings manage to get their carp into the minds of people.
let me clarify that.
with my active relatives i understand the brainwashing, because they continuously feed on the pap from the book publishing company.
I do know that being df'd doesn't automatically mean that the indoctrination and mind control goes away. I was df'd many years ago at a time when I was very ill and at an extremely low period in my life. However, I still believed the JW's had the "Truth", defended them to everyone and went back and got reinstated. I grateful that my mind has been freed from their control now.
Maddie
many of us believe the days of the watchower society may be numbered.
they are receiving an unprecedented amount of well deserved negative publicity.
however, they are still experiencing modest growth.
Sadly I think it will continue in one form or another, as has already been suggested on this forum. Karl Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the masses"
I am not an advocate of Karl Marx by any stretch of the imagination. I have a Christian faith but religious organisations, especially cults like the JW's are evil and exploit vulnerable people for their own ends. IMO this will always be a fact while the world is like it is.
Maddie
it happened again like in july when i talked to an elder and his wife about child abuse, but this time i got a hold of rank and file members who fortunately i was able to play like a fiddle as they had no idea what they were up against here.
so brother middle age ex-hippie convert ( as he told me later ) and sister middle age hair in a bun offered me the awake on death or our view of death.
i graciously accepted gaining their trust saying yes, i had close loved ones who had died over the years but didn't know if i believed in a resurrection or hereafter.
I think it was fantastic the way you handled it, I wish I could express things so well. Well done!
Maddie
forgive me if this has been said and done already.
but i thought a new thread wouldn't hurt.
i get two every couple of days and i hardly make use of that.
I think its a good way of trying to reach people and I hope it works for you. I am forever trying to come up with the "right way" to let my JW family know the truth about what the WT are really like. It may often seem like a drip-feed but is an effective method.
Maddie
tomorrow morning, 12 hours from now, i will be on my way to disneyworld to meet the mouse in person.
i have wanted to go there ever since i was a kid and now it's happening.
i know i'm going to be 6 years old when i go through those gates.. due to my current health issue, it's going to be physically demanding for me, but i'm going to do my best to see everything i can, for as long as i can and enjoy every second of it.
Some dreams do come true then Eryn. Have a wonderful time!
Maddie
that when a witness tries to debate with you online, that very act can get them disfellowshipped.
it's an incredible feeling that if someone were to just talk to me, they could be kicked out of the org.
for it.
I can't say I understand your feeling of satisfaction. I don't wish any JW the fate of going through being df'd and then shunned. Just the fact that JW's post on here probably means they are having doubts about the WT and want to find out more, so I wish them well. As for any spies that may lurk on JWD, they are a sorry lot!
Maddie
several years ago my hub and i went overseas for a month, and at the time had 4 minor children....... we created a trust fund for the children and after deep soul-searching, we asked a young, (and at the time childless) couple to be guardians should the need arise....that was us being responsible..... the kicker was>>>> we named the wts as beneficiaries should the great tragedy of all family members dying occur....... i have been feeding little tidbits to the hub for the last few weeks, esp the csa issues, as this strikes close to home..... he found silent lambs ..... and not being the research oriented type, he stopped there..... but his distaste for the borg is well established.... .
at any rate, the point is that i told him today that once the dust of the holidays settles i wanted us to change the trust to 1) assign the now 23 yo son as the guardian and 2) get the wts out of our affairs.... and delete them from the trust....... just like the subject line reads..... coming to my senses.
That's good, the WT prey on people like you to line their pockets.
Maddie
it was at my grandson's school.
it lasted for about 2 hrs because some of the kids kept getting cold feet and had to be coaxed out of their stage fright.. one visitor had to pinch hit for an ill performer.. she let it be known that she is a musician - not a singer.
however, she agreed to sing jesus - what a wonderful child a cappella.. i tell you, she didn't need any musical accompaniment!
I am glad it was a lovely experience for you Snowbird. My niece was singing in a choir recently - she is only 10, and it made me very emotional. They sang Christmas carols and it was beautiful to listen to them.
Maddie
looking back, being a jw meant constantly analyzing and categorizing others.
on field service, persons were either "sheeplike" or "goatlike".
in the congregation it went even further.
No I wasn't very judgemental, never have been.
Maddie
did anyone go and get a tattoo after you left, either because you really wanted too or because you just wanted to rebel.. i got one done about a year afterwards.
it's a black widow: i've got another 3 lined up.. .
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I had this tattooed all around my wrist yesterday, and I really love it. It is the third one I have had done, but this was the most painful.
Maddie
