Thanks :) we are very lucky and very proud of him.
Rocky_Girl
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Be prepared for a Good cry...
by ohiocowboy inwatch the video.
my eyes are still watery.
happy tears.
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Rocky_Girl
My fiance and I were at a bagel shop one Saturday morning when a couple of car groups came in for break. They were from my old congregation and would not have known that I left except by gossip. BTW I tell anyone who asks that I left and why I left, yet I'm not DA or DF. The group sat at a big table about 6 feet away from us and were loudly laughing and having a good time when one of the women recognized me and the entire table went silent. They all turned at the same time to stare at me like I had two heads. My fiance, who had never seen shunning in action before, looked at them and asked "WHAT?" they all looked away and then the leader of the groups, an elder if I remember right, went to the counter and the employee looked at us and looked confused, then went over and opened the closed section of the dining area and the entire group moved over there after having sat at their table for 20min+/-.
The employee was cleaning the abandoned table and mentioned to us that the group wanted us to move but he refused to ask us. He then asked why they would do that. I told him that I didn't go to their church anymore so they thought I would corrupt them if they were so close. He laughed and walked away. My fiance made a point of opening doors for me, he usually does but not with such flair, and then planting a big smooch on me as he let me in to the car. I love him. I have to say, this was the biggest snub I received, but it didn't hurt me as much as the first ones.
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Be prepared for a Good cry...
by ohiocowboy inwatch the video.
my eyes are still watery.
happy tears.
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Rocky_Girl
My Airman returned from Kuwait just this past month. He was only gone for four months and my boys were stuck to him like magnets when they saw him. I could not imagine the agony of having him away for a year, what a strong woman and what a sweet story.
Angie
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Were you a good witness in school?
by keyser soze ini have to confess that i really wasn't.
it wasn't that i was bad.
i just didn't do all the things that were expected of me.. i remember being envious of those kids they would interview at meetings and assemblies; the ones who could stand up in front of all their classmates and talk about "the truth".
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Rocky_Girl
I was and now I wish I hadn't been, haha! I sat in the hallway or in the library from November until January because of all the holiday things in elementary. Then, I was the one kid who had to sit out of Sex Ed in middle school. I was considered a snotty girl because I would not go out on dates or to parties. It was rough, but at the time I took it as proof of doing what is right. What a waste.
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Does anyone here celebrate holidays? Why?
by Rocky_Girl ini didn't originally celebrate anything, but when my oldest son started school i decided that it was unfair to put him through what i went through in school.
i have to admit that i am loving the holidays, even though some of that old mindset tries to make me feel guilty.
we focus on what the holidays mean to us as a family and enjoying time together.
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Rocky_Girl
I think I go overboard with the decorating also. Making up for lost time I suppose. The first year I decorated my own Christmas tree, both of the trees for work, my future MIL let me help with hers and my friend from school. It was fun!
I agree that there are many reasons to celebrate that have nothing to do with religion, or pagans! I just listed why we did it. Thanks for all of your reasons.
Angie
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Snakes will soon be writing a DA letter
by SnakesInTheTower invery interesting thread atjeff started about whether to fade or not.
(to fade or not to fade...an opinion) thought i would start a new thread with my thoughts, but not hijack his.. here are my thoughts on my own situation which may or may not reflect anyone else's situation.
sunday is our family day.
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Rocky_Girl
You wrote: "I NEED CLOSURE."
I hope that writing the letter brings closure for you. So many people write a letter to justify themself or to teach the elder who reads it about the false doctrines of the org. This never works and leaves the writer feeling unsatisfied and bitter. I have comforted many friends who wrote a letter just to be let down by the lack of reaction from the elders afterward. I chose not to write because I felt in control of the situation by not following their rules. You feel in control by DAing before they DF. I think that it is great that you are going to empower yourself and do what is good for you.
Good thoughts and wishes sent your way!
Angie
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Does anyone here celebrate holidays? Why?
by Rocky_Girl ini didn't originally celebrate anything, but when my oldest son started school i decided that it was unfair to put him through what i went through in school.
i have to admit that i am loving the holidays, even though some of that old mindset tries to make me feel guilty.
we focus on what the holidays mean to us as a family and enjoying time together.
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Rocky_Girl
I didn't originally celebrate anything, but when my oldest son started school I decided that it was unfair to put him through what I went through in school. I have to admit that I am loving the holidays, even though some of that old mindset tries to make me feel guilty. We focus on what the holidays mean to us as a family and enjoying time together. And, it is awesome to see the magic of the holidays work in our family as we do things for each other and for the unfortunate in our community. There are a lot of lessons that can be taught in the context of days like Thanksgiving(remembering things we are thankful for), Easter (the love shown in Jesus giving his life for us), and Christmas (believing in something bigger than us, generosity). I know that some of you don't believe in God any longer, but there are other messages you may attach to some holidays.
I probably wouldn't be doing it if I didn't have kids, not because I believe they are wrong but because it is what I am used to. I am glad that my kids will not have these issues when they are grown and can enjoy the fun things in life, such as birthdays, holidays, sports, college, etc. And, I'm glad that they aren't living in fear like I was in grade school. (I always thought the big A would happen while I was at school and I would have to watch the other kids get killed and eaten by birds)
How about you? Anyone celebrate? Which holidays? Why did you start? Why did you never start?
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To Fade or Not To Fade... An Opinion.....
by AllTimeJeff injust a couple of set of ground rules i would like to set for this.
frequently, one of two options for those who want to leave jw's are 1) a purposeful, public, resignation (or disassociation as jw's call it) vs 2) what is commonly called in the ex jw internet world, "the fade".
i know that emotions run deep on this subject for good reason, because of what is at stake, and all that is perceived to be lost.
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I stopped going to meetings for a long time, just showing up occasionally for memorials and special talks. Ater doing that for 8 years, I started looking at the org with open eyes and discovered the lies and scandals regarding blood, the UN, and myriad other things. After that, my Mom asked me why I had changed my mind and I told her that I would tell her if she really wanted to know, but that I wanted her to think about it for a week first. She never asked me again.
I received a shepherding call, for the first time in 10 years and they asked leading questions regarding apostasy and I played dumb. When they asked to visit again I told them that I didn't feel comfortable as a single woman alone with two or three men. They haven't called again. If they do they will get the same answer. I joined another church, but have not gotten any grief about it. My parents don't want me DF because they don't want to shun so they haven't told.
I thought about sending a letter, but I decided that I didn't need to play by their rules after all this time. I didn't need a letter for closure, so why should I write one? I am treated as if I am DF by all other JWs, and I find that more annoying than hurtful anymore. It used to bother me a lot.
I am a fader by accident, I did not intend to leave but I am glad I did.
Angie
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If christ loved everyone then why don't christians
by loosie inlove or at least tolerate everyone?.
i had a 13 yr old friend of my daughters visit this weekend.
she told me she was going to bible camp.
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There are a lot of 'Christians' out there that claim to be following Christ, yet they don't show the love that Christ showed. If there is no love, there is no Christ. When I started looking for God on my own, I saw a lot of hypocrisy in so-called Christian religions. I decided that the only thing I am sure of is that God is love, so I won't go along with anything that is not loving. My life has gotten a lot easier since I started following only one rule. If only all Christians would do this.
Angie
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How do you replace a family?
by YoursChelbie inas a result of wanting to have a normal life, away from the dogma of the jw religion,.
many have lost contact with parents, children and in many cases, their spouse.. my divorce was uncontested and i was fortunate enough to get out of from watchtower control with my children.
my parents were never involved with the religion,.
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LouBelle said: "after much pondering, soul searching I realised it wasn't *I* that had turned my back on them."
It is disgusting how the org. manipulates our thinking when we are 'in.' The shunners feel as if they are doing the loving thing and the shunned feel like they deserve to be shunned. I remember trying to explain to my first husband how my old friends were snubbing me because they love me and want me to come back to the meetings. He looked at me like I had grown a second head and asked why I would go back to a place where no one will talk to me. As I was explaining that it would only be for 6 months 'I' realized how sick it was. It was one very scary first step of many that showed me the error of the WTS way.
Angie