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  Do you have to speak out to be DF for apostacy?

  by MissingLink in

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  i'm a bit confused.

  i've been worried that i'm going to be df for apostacy because i no longer believe core jw teachings.

  i don't have an intention on protesting or strirring things up, but i'm worried because i will not lie to elders if they ask me what i think about things (in a shepherding call).

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  I realize that some people feel justified in lying to elders. And I don't judge anyone for that choice. But my whole motivation in making this change is based on conscience. I want to be a good and honest person. If this means things might go bad for me, then I'll deal with that. But I feel that I have to be honest to everyone.

  This issue actually came up with my conversation with my father. He's under the impression that without christian beliefs - accountability to a god - it's not possible to live a good life because you can justify anything. I disagree. I think that belief in god is not necessary to have good morals, and that our conscience (natural law) is enough IF we listen to it.
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  Do you have to speak out to be DF for apostacy?

  by MissingLink in

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  i'm a bit confused.

  i've been worried that i'm going to be df for apostacy because i no longer believe core jw teachings.

  i don't have an intention on protesting or strirring things up, but i'm worried because i will not lie to elders if they ask me what i think about things (in a shepherding call).

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  MissingLink

  I'm a bit confused. I've been worried that I'm going to be DF for apostacy because I no longer believe core JW teachings. I don't have an intention on protesting or strirring things up, but I'm worried because I will not lie to elders if they ask me what I think about things (in a shepherding call). I thought that this was enough to get me DF.

  I was talking to my JW parents yesterday. Mom asked me when our assembly was. I replied that I didn't have a clue. She asked if I was going to meetings. I told her no. This was the first time I was this blunt with them. Anyway - it was a big emotional conversation with her and my father. They both said that they would still love me no matter what I chose. They were actually very nice about the whole thing. Although mom is convinced that I'm under Satan's influence (like my sister). I told my (elder) dad about my concerns about being DF. He said that there was no reason for me to be DF and that apostates are ones making a stand against Jehovah. I said that's not the dictionary definition of apostacy. He said I can think whatever I want as long as I dont stir up trouble in the congregation - I can just walk away.

  Is this true? If I tell the elders I don't believe, but have no bad intentions - will they DF me for my apostate thoughts? Or will they only DF me for apostate actions?
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  THE TORTURE STAKE

  by journey-on in

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  why in the world did they choose to call it that!

  i remember the horrific way it always sounded to me...the torture stake.

  couldn't they have chosen something else?

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  mmmmm steak.
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  Let JWD find the true number of partakers!

  by cultswatter in

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  i've heard stories that most congregations have no partakers at all.

  if there are approx 9000 partakers in 90,000 congregations then 81,000 congregations don't have partakers.

  i just don't believe that - how bout you??

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  Generation change in study article

  by LadyCCC in

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  i just finished reading the "journal" and it mentioned that they have said in the past that the generation meant the unbelieving jews, and then in modern day times generation meant world of unbelievers, now am i wrong to assume that what is mentioned in paragraph 15 of the last study article in the feb. 15th watchtower is that the annointed are the "generation"?

  is this now new light?

  are we to assume that this is still the truth despite the changes, i mean what if they are and our faith is being tested?

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  lumière du jour
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  Quick Question about length of Sunday meeting

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  hi.

  with the public talk being 15 minutes shorter, is the overall meeting now one hour and three quarters or still two hours?.

  thomas covenant.

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  1:45 (in theory)
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  How old were you when baptized as a JW?

  by Serg in

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  i was 16 and not a clue in the world what i was getting into..... how about you?

  how old were you?.

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  16. I was a late bloomer. Peer pressure.
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  My Bethel Experience Part III

  by new boy in

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  don't get me wrong...........there was no one more self righteous then me at 19. moved to kansas at 18 to pioneer and even printed up cards that said............ "have sword with travel"---------contact casarona salina kansas------ aaa (availabe after armegeddon)-----ss (sacred service)...... oh, i was full of myself!

  thought of myself as a spiritual gun fighter.

  to defend truth, justice and all the watchtower bible and tract society stood for.

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  very nice. thanks
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  What do JW's do to help the poor & needy at this time of year, or ever?

  by Must obey! in

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  just about every church i know of does something for the poor and needy around this time of year, who are not necessarily christians or members of their church.

  from helping prisoners to delivering food hampers to visiting the lonely and elderly to helping poor people and children overseas, most churches i'm aware of do at least something to materially help the suffering in the community, home and abroad, regardless of their religious orientation.

  many of these churches have programmes providing such assistance all year around, even many catholic churches.. but what do the jw's do to actually practically help the suffering and poor at this time of year, or ever?

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  MissingLink

  The good news of the kingdom is the greatest gift of all. everything else is worthless.
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  What do JW's do to help the poor & needy at this time of year, or ever?

  by Must obey! in

  1. jw
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  just about every church i know of does something for the poor and needy around this time of year, who are not necessarily christians or members of their church.

  from helping prisoners to delivering food hampers to visiting the lonely and elderly to helping poor people and children overseas, most churches i'm aware of do at least something to materially help the suffering in the community, home and abroad, regardless of their religious orientation.

  many of these churches have programmes providing such assistance all year around, even many catholic churches.. but what do the jw's do to actually practically help the suffering and poor at this time of year, or ever?

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  MissingLink

  The good news of the kingdom is the greatest gift of all. everything else is worthless.

  The magazines are a bit crinkly but CAN serve as toilet paper in a pinch. That's something.