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  CAN A CHRISTIAN BELONG TO A NUDIST RESORT?

  by minimus in

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  the may 15, 1962 wt.

  states:"therefore no dedicated christian minister can remain in good standing in the new world society of jehovah's witnesses and at the same time be a member of a nudist colony or frequent nudist camps" so if you had to make a choice,what would you do?.

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  MissingLink

  no dedicated Christian minister can remain in good standing in the new world society of Jehovah's Witnesses and at the same time be a member of a nudist colony or frequent nudist camps

  Occasional visits are OK. Just not frequent.
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  Book, Jehovah Unmasked

  by dogisgod in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone here recommended this book to me.

  i finished it in the wee hours of the morning and now feel a little like my brains have been scrambled.

  from what mr merritt wrote kind of reminds me of scientology.

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  Sounds like a whole new flavour of crazy.
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  Confronting my JW teachings and beliefs. Just read Crisis of Conscience.

  by digderidoo in

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  2. friends

  i have just finished reading crisis of conscience by raymond franz.

  i only stumbled across this book on wednesday in the town library while waiting for a public computer.

  the last couple of days in the uk has seen miserable weather which has effected my work so i have had plenty of spare time to read this book.

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  I have to back you up. Especially being a fellow smoking primate.

  I'm on chapter 4/13 and its an amazing book. Detailed to the point of being boring in alot of places, but this is necessary to prove it's accuracy.
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  Hillary "I have been fighting for change for 36 years!!".then u r a frikkin

  by oompa in

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  failure lady.

  i could not believe she screamed that line out the other night, but if i was in a debate with her i would throw it in her chipmunk face.

  i'lllet you fight for change for for me for five years...fine.

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  This is an outsiders perspective --

  I think talking about policy is meaningless. The president really doesn't appear to have the power to do much of all other than control the military. They all promise whatever it will take to get them elected, but none of these promises go anywhere. So - how do you make the decision? Who appears to be a good person.

  IF I were voting in the USA I'd probably pick Obama. He just seems honest. Then again - if you can fake honesty, then you're set.

  Rudy is one of the most evil men I've ever seen. Sept 11 was the greatest day of his life and the start of his presidential run. I predicted it then when he was trying to push Bush out of the way giving his speech in NY.

  Hillary is a total fake and will say or do anything to get in power. I don't hate her because she's a woman. In fact I think Rice should have run - she's an honest woman. Hillary has been involved in so many dodgy dealings in the past. She just can't be trusted. She also has been running for the presidency for years, but denying it the whole time. Liar.
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  Did you have a dominant family in your congro??

  by karter in

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  was there one family that ruled your congro?.

  was it referred to as brother so and so congro?.

  if you married into that family were you automatically made an m's or elder?.

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  Oh heck yes. When I was growing up it seemed every congregation in our area had a ruling family. They would make up at least half of the elders, and nobody would think of crossing them. Witness mafia.

  One of my associates when I was a teen was a "prince" of one of these families. He basically had an arranged marriage (because nobody else was good enough) with a pioneer "princess" of a nearby congregation. Everyone called this the "royal wedding". It really was the most extravigant event I've been to. These families were also the ones with loads of money.

  Both of these families got their money by employing half of the witnesses in their halls to do manual labor while they just sat back and collected the cash. Then they would use this power to control the congregation. I was working for one of them for a while and aux-pioneering. We were constantly asked how many hours we had in the misery. If it wasn't good enough - our work assignments would be cut (to lovingly give us more time for the ministry) and given to a more "spiritual" borther who was making his time. Also - your pay was based on your pioneer status. Regular pioneers earned more per hour than aux-pioneers, and in that congregation publishers were just bad association and not even in the mix.
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  Do you have to speak out to be DF for apostacy?

  by MissingLink in

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  i'm a bit confused.

  i've been worried that i'm going to be df for apostacy because i no longer believe core jw teachings.

  i don't have an intention on protesting or strirring things up, but i'm worried because i will not lie to elders if they ask me what i think about things (in a shepherding call).

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  MissingLink

  Someone on another forum showe me this from the "Flock" book.

  Apostasy.
  
  Apostasy is a standing away from, a falling away, defec-
  tion, rebellion, abandonment; it involves teaching false
  doctrines, supporting or promoting false religion and its
  holidays or interfaith activities. (Deut. 13:13, 15; Josh.
  22:22, ftn.; Acts 21:21, ftn.; 2 Cor. 6:14, 15, 17, 18;
  2. John 7, 9, 10; Rev. 18:4)
  
  Those with sincere doubts should be helped, dealt with
  mercifully. (Jude 22, 23; w82 9/1 pp. 20-1;w80 8/1
  pp. 21-2)
  
  Apostasy includes action taken against true worship of
  Jehovah or his established order among his dedicated
  people. (Jer. 17:13; 23:15; 28:15, 16; 2 Thess. 2:9, 10)
  
  Persons who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and
  speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught
  by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.
  
  If it is learned that a person has taken up association with
  another religious organization, the matter should be inves-
  tigated, and if verified, a committee should be formed.
  
  If it is clearly established that the person has joined
  another religion and intends to remain with it, the
  elders would make a brief announcement to the congre-
  gation that such- one has disassociated himself. (w86
  10/15 p. 31 )
  
  Working secularly for a false religious organization could
  put one in a position similar to that of one preaching false
  doctrine. (2 Cor. 6:14-16)
  
  Celebrating a false religious holiday would be similar to
  performing any other act of false worship. (Jer. 7:16-19)
  
  The Bible condemns the following:
  
  Causing divisions and promoting sects.
  
  This would be deliberate action disrupting the unity
  of the congregation or undermining the confidence
  of the brothers in Jehovah's arrangement.

  Which she interpreted to mean that action WAS necessary. Someone else posted that this indicates action IS NOT necessary. I guess it really isn't very clear, and you couldn't blame a BOE for interpreting it the way they want.
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  How often does the average person get a JW to there door - not often!

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a thread at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=aiqqg3xcilesnap3lmkpr98jzkix;_ylv=3?qid=20080115211135aaqpdtb where a person asks how often does has a mormon or jw been to someones door.

  the answers surprised me.

  most people said not often or never.

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  Depends where you live. I was at an inner city congregation for a while and we covered the territory about every 3 weeks. It really was a total waste of time. We could practically remeber every door. They would answer and we'd sheepishly give our presentation feeling like crap for haslling them even though we knew they weren't interrested. They would alway remind us - "You were just here a couple weeks ago and I told you then I wasn't interrested". Now I'm out in the boonies, and the territory gets covered about once a year. Of course with the percentage of not-at-homes I'd say each person probably gets a visit every 2-3 years on average.
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  Smurfs 50th Birthday is today!

  by mrsjones5 in

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  MissingLink

  Happy Smurfday
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  Another method of witness time-wasting

  by ldrnomo in

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  yesterday as i was getting ready to go out i noticed from my bedroom window two women dressed in witness garb heading toward my house i didn't recognize them so when i answered the door they asked me if i was spanish speaking i said no and they then asked me if i knew of anyone the the neighborhood that was and i said no they thanked me and went off to the next door (doing the pioneer shuffle) to ask the same question.

  so this must have taken up a whole morning.

  my wife and i thought they could have spent their time so much more affectivly sitting in a coffee shop and saying olaaaa to each customer that came in and when one answered back they could have spewed their bs on them in spanish..

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  MissingLink

  what not just push a fresh totilla and taco cart around, and the percentage draw would be better...oompa

  or hang a pinata or two from a street light.....you get the picture

  Or offer "back drying towels".
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  Letter of Disassociation

  by freydi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  june 16th, 1994 .

  dear friends, .

  this letter is the most difficult i have ever had to write.

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  MissingLink

  How did your friends respond to this?