you could have stupid new light every week published and the vast majority aren't going anywhere.
you could see proof of contradiction after contradiction right in front of your nose, if you're a witness.
and you still won't budge.. the reason: mental and spiritual laziness.
Hi minimus
most of us were at least a ittle lazy else why did we stay - in my case far too long?
Agree with Maddie the mind control techniques are very clever anf they work. Mao,radical islam and many others use similar techniqus of mind control and double think.
We at least here are free to express our divergent views
regards llbh
i heard on the news this morning that the us has finally met it's enlistement quota.
they acheived this by offering a $20,000 bonus upon enlisting.. the us has also relaxed it's standards as to who they allow to enlist.
a criminal record and drug issues will no longer keep you out of the armed forces.. so, in many cases the country is sending uneduacted, criminally inclined young men and women to a nasty war, to witness atrocities that furthur sear their conscience.
Btw changeling keep ranting as a bleeding heart liberal
llbh
i heard on the news this morning that the us has finally met it's enlistement quota.
they acheived this by offering a $20,000 bonus upon enlisting.. the us has also relaxed it's standards as to who they allow to enlist.
a criminal record and drug issues will no longer keep you out of the armed forces.. so, in many cases the country is sending uneduacted, criminally inclined young men and women to a nasty war, to witness atrocities that furthur sear their conscience.
I agree with you for the most part changeling. With a couple of the usual caveats what to do with a dictator like Hilter?. War is horrid, my dad was on the d day landings of the 2800 who went out 800 returnedof his regiment he was badly burned He only rarely spoke of it . He also saw a concentration camp and Dresden
Oompa you are funny.
Brentr - whats wrong with union jack me and oompa are Brits? If you had the union jack no George Bush no Jeb Bush... care to rejoin?
i am new to this site but have been lurking for a while now.
i have not told my story yet because i am in the middle of a situation i had hoped to avoid.
my wife is still a jw in good standing, my two sons were dfd a year ago.
Welcome fadingeld. Keep us all posted as to what happened. Hopefully your children will understand. What prompted your wife to behave the way she did hopefully you understand. She may even come round seeing how much you love your children
best wishes llbh
hi im new to this forum and am currently trying to exite the watchtower.for the past 12 months or more i have stopped going on the ministry.in august last year i stopped going to the meetings but depression kicked in and other symptoms and i returned to the meetings in april.i stopped going to the meetings again in july and did more research to see if this is a cult.but im having all sorts of symptoms.confusion of whats right and wrong, panic attacks when i go out, one minute i hate the watchtower the next i wonder whether this is the truth and wonder if ive been mislead by satan.i dont know who to trust and where to go from here.and none of my family was ever in the watchtower so i think they know somethings going on but they can,t understand what im going through.ive been in the watchtower since 1999 off and on, i finally got baptized in 2005 after what i thought was carefull examination of the truth.and whats worse is the elder i studied with when i came into the " truth" lives right next door to me with his wife, which plays all sorts of guilt trips on me and paranoia.
Hi Jace, Welcome
I took quite a long time to fall way. This was deliberate as I did not want too phoney elder visits. They only botherd me once; so much for shepherding!. But it worked for me and for my wife and daughter who still go, it spared them problems. Do what you think will work for you and read here, it helps. Though I am new here there a lot of useful and funny posts. As you can see i am in the uk too so if I can help please contact
regards llbh
well, it's that time of the year again!!!.
the november the 1st watchtower is demanding money from the r and f and in no uncertain terms makes it clear that no matter how poor they are they should be giving their money to one of the richest companys in brooklyn, the watchtower bible and tract society!!.
the 'inspiring' article on page 17 is entitled:.
Hi Gill,
They do not alter do they, just use more cunning tactics, practise I suppose. My JW wife and I changed our wills to make sure they not get anything.
regards llbh
my son and daughter-in-law had twins yesterday, a boy and a girl.
(6 pounds 10 oz.
and 7 pounds 2 oz.
enjoy congratulations. Our neighbour has twins now 11 tiring but lovely for what they are
llbh
last night i was talking to my 17yr.
old son who hasn't been among the borg since ca.
2002, and asked him why he hates religions.
Hi Linda, what a bright guy your boy is he will do ok, hope my 14yr daughter sees the light.
As for the investment thing in shares it may have been done to death in times past but I sadly like many was not here. The wtbs is supposed to have ethical standards and counsel not to work at thsee places so how can they invest in them.?
regards David
this apparent change to the "generation" is pretty major i think.. when we consider all of the changes in understanding (i mean flashes of light!.
the 1995 change extended this old system by detaching the generation from 1914.. then the may 2007 wt qfr detached the gathering of the anointed from 1935.. now the latest change detaches the generation from all mankind except the small group of anointed.. and because of the 1935 detachment this could run for quite sometime.. most r & f jws will embrace this with both hands.
for me that is my greatest concern - millions will not even stop to think that we only had a flash of light about.
Hi coco, can i refer to you as that? Fred Franz is a wtbs hero, for them to refute his statement about this generation would mean that he, or they did not have the full understanding, or worse apostate! Checkmate I think - for what it is worth.
llbh
hey everyone,.
i thank you all for your advice and opinions and everything else you had to offer me in my time of need.
to be honest i was greatful to have read your words prior to the demise of my relationship with my, now ex-boyfriend.
Well done
Sad but really he left you no choice, easier now than later. good luck and find a kind caring guy for you both.
regards llbh
