Thats an easy question- It was the thursday ministry drooool meeting.It was the most boring meeting on the planet and probably still is which is why although ive been back to a few meetings the past year or so ive not been to a minstry meeting in about 2 years or more.
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Which meeting did you hate the most?
by lfcviking infor me it was the tuesday night book study.
i didn't like reading, opening/closing with prayers and the uncomfortable, close, claustrophobic setting it was in.
this meeting was the first one to be binned when i started to fade.
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The Borg's Current Take On The King of the North
by Rapunzel inreading aleman's intelligent and erudite posts in regard to prophecies and other things biblical got me to thinking and prompted me to ask the following question - just what is the watchtower bible and tract society's current [as of this month, february 2008] interpretation on the identity of the wicked witch king of the north?
when i was in - many moons ago in the late 1970's - the king of the north was depicted, if my memory serves me correctly, as the soviet union.
but as the expression goes, s*** happens.
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jacethespace
This is a very intresting question.One that had alarm bells ringing in my head.
When i was joining the tower i studied all the literature from the 80s and was quite concerned then that they were saying that the king of the north was the soviet union.
When i was in the tower i had questions as to who was the king of the north now?
Everyone kept telling me not to speculate because we dont curently know who the king of the north is!
Apparently he is yet to arise and he has changed roles again and could be anyone.
Watchtower mags over the past few years have pointed this out too.
We dont know as he hasnt risen yet and is lying dormant until the new king of the north lets himself known
Sounds a load of old b@@ls to me.
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Poll - Is this the best example of a picture that shows lovebombing?
by truthseeker inis this picture a good example of love bombing?
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Yes his well and truly
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what have jws got against beards ?
by looloo inand it really used to annoy me that jesus and john the baptist both had such neat and well trimmed beards in the watchtower literature , how unlikley would that be in reality ?
also they never wore a suit so why do "true christians "have to wear one , is all about appearences by any chance and giving a false impression ?
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what have jws got against beards ?
by looloo inand it really used to annoy me that jesus and john the baptist both had such neat and well trimmed beards in the watchtower literature , how unlikley would that be in reality ?
also they never wore a suit so why do "true christians "have to wear one , is all about appearences by any chance and giving a false impression ?
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Why Aren't There Windows in the Newer Kingdom Halls?
by StAnn ini've driven by several newer kh's in the past few years and noticed that none of them have even so much as one window.
just double doors on the front (with no windows) and a solid door on the back.
what's up with that?
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jacethespace
My local hall has small oblong windows that are frosted.
In a guess it could be they thought people might not be tempted to look out the windows and to actually listen to the garbage on the platform instead.
They dont want anyone to think about the outside world while in the hall.
And the way the tower likes to control peoples minds i wouldnt put it past them.
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I can see clearly now the watchtowers gone
by jacethespace inisnt it so strange that the moment that you get away from the watchtower and live life everything soon begins to get better ?
at the moment things seem to be looking up for me now.. it seems to me now that a lot of watchtower routine week in and week out is a complete waste of time and effort that could be spent in other more healthy pursuits in life.. as a jw your time is caught up in a never ending pursuit of work,study,meetings,field circus.its no wonder all jws want to see the end come about.but could they also be longing for an end to the never ending monotony there in?
ironically enough.. plus as a jw [ personally for me ] you are constantly feeling tired and worrying about fitting time in to do everything that needs to be done in a given week.also there is very little time for family especially if your family are none witnesses.i found this intresting when i mentioned to an elder whithin the congregation that my family complained about me never having time for them.he told me his mom was often saying the same things about him.. then theres good old field circus.most time i spent in " the field" i feel was wasted as most people see this door to door work as annoying and even if they do have the magazines or even agree to a study most never ever convert to the tower.its anything but a life saving work.. its also tiring just trying to keep up the appearance that everythings fine and being a jw makes you oh so happy when thats not true.or as the elder who lives nextdoor does whenever i see him lately and say hi he walks away whistling.as if whistling shows your happy.its a front.. in contrast now out of the tower theres plenty of time to plan life and think for yourself.you have plenty of time to take an intrest in family and friends and do good things for others.. i also feel a lot healthier mentally and physically for not having to constantly be running around none stop.and the other thursday when it was time for meetings and the elder left the house next door i didnt feel like i was doing anything wrong when i to walked out the house and said hello and then carried on my own way, maybe next time i,ll whistle too.. the only thing that still bothers me is just not knowing all the answers to where the worlds heading.. but im still waiting for all those demons to pop up and plague me for leaving truth.i guess there on holiday.. .
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isnt it so strange that the moment that you get away from the watchtower and live life everything soon begins to get better ? At the moment things seem to be looking up for me now.
It seems to me now that a lot of watchtower routine week in and week out is a complete waste of time and effort that could be spent in other more healthy pursuits in life.
As a jw your time is caught up in a never ending pursuit of work,study,meetings,Field circus.Its no wonder all jws want to see the end come about.But could they also be longing for an end to the never ending monotony there in? Ironically enough.
Plus as a jw [ personally for me ] you are constantly feeling tired and worrying about fitting time in to do everything that needs to be done in a given week.Also there is very little time for family especially if your family are none witnesses.I found this intresting when i mentioned to an elder whithin the congregation that my family complained about me never having time for them.He told me his mom was often saying the same things about him.
Then theres good old field circus.Most time i spent in " the field" i feel was wasted as most people see this door to door work as annoying and even if they do have the magazines or even agree to a study most never ever convert to the tower.Its anything but a life saving work.
Its also tiring just trying to keep up the appearance that everythings fine and being a jw makes you oh so happy when thats not true.Or as the elder who lives nextdoor does whenever i see him lately and say hi he walks away whistling.As if whistling shows your happy.Its a front.
In contrast now out of the tower theres plenty of time to plan life and think for yourself.You have plenty of time to take an intrest in family and friends and do good things for others.
I also feel a lot healthier mentally and physically for not having to constantly be running around none stop.And the other thursday when it was time for meetings and the elder left the house next door i didnt feel like i was doing anything wrong when i to walked out the house and said hello and then carried on my own way, maybe next time i,ll whistle too.
The only thing that still bothers me is just not knowing all the answers to where the worlds heading.
But im still waiting for all those demons to pop up and plague me for leaving truth.I guess there on holiday.
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Experience from a bible study student
by Vincent ini have left the jehovah's witnesses(jw) organisation after hearing of the death of emma gough who was 22 years old and refused blood while giving birth to twins.
as i thought of this i thought this would put me in a similar situation but with having a brain tumour operation like i did on 7/12/06
i studied the what the bible teaches book and got to chapter 13 until 28th oct 07 i left after hearing of the terror of that death.
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jacethespace
Hi Vince sorry about the problems your having they sound similar to what a lot of jws go through when joining this cult.
I have had the same experience some things you put in your thread could have been written by me as i had bad feelings and depression not long after beginning my study and feelings of loneliness and it didnt get better or go away until i go out of this cult.
From my experience a lot of watchtower activity causes these problems and wastes a lot of time that could be spent in more usefull pursuits such as taking an intrest in family and enjoying life.
Hope things start to feel better soon.
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Has anyone else noticed something unusual going on...
by Qcmbr ina 'doomsday' seedbank - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/svalbard_global_seed_vault .
renovations on camps potentially in preparation for disasters http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-hvpjpti4 .
incredible removals of basic rights - the us is way ahead of the uk on this - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2622692.ece .
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From my own personal research there are a lot of conuries planning a new world order of some sort and some countries/groups are in oppostion to the wests so called world plan that includes the un eu african union north american union.All things are merging into one including the economy of the world.
http://itn.co.uk/news/72bd0589429eeab99871454409cad025.html
http://www.eurocontrol.int/ses/public/standard_page/sk_ses.html
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The cry of "Peace and Security"
by Olin Moyles Ghost inanyone who has been associated with the witnesses for any period of time is familiar with 1 thess.
5:2 - "whenever it is that they are saying: peace and security!
then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape.
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jacethespace
Ive gotta say on this one ive done extensive research on government websites and watched whats going on in the world over the years and there is a big attempt and push now for peace and security in the world.Doesnt mean the watchtowers right but its happeninghttp://www.foreignaffairs.org/19740401faessay10106/richard-n-gardner/the-hard-road-to-world-order.html
