Posts by FadingTruth

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Has any apostate ever lied at a JC about being apostate?

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

i watched/ listened to the brave and courageous souls on youtube who bravely recorded their jc's.

you really see a different and horrid side to the elders there.

it might sound whimpy but i don't think i would be able to stand strong like those guys did.

FadingTruth

You need to remember that according to the GB, it's okay to withhold truth:

From WT library

*** it-2 p. 245 Lie ***
While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it. Jesus Christ counseled: “Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open.” (Mt 7:6) That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10) Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light.

I would say elders are included as those not entitled to know the personal aspects of your life.

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JW Org Flags at R.C.

by ToesUp in

photo was posted on jw-archive.

j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

in fribourg, switzerland..

FadingTruth

Can we confirm that this is real and not photoshopped?

After that one photoshop of the JW literature cart ladies in the coffee shop with the homeless man outside, I need to be doubly sure

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An experience of just how screwed over Wt has got them.

by joe134cd in

although i find this unsurprising, i think it worth mentioning as it demonstrates a point.

i know a brother in chile, and i wanted confirmation on the flag flying outside the kh in that country.

he said he was unaware of it.

FadingTruth

I must have missed this; I don't know anything about it. Can somebody explain or provide a link that will explain?

Cedar's blog has more details

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/kingdom-halls-in-chile-display-the-national-flag

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An interesting theory on Stephen Lett

by joe134cd in

interesting theory i thought on stephen lett.

if anything i would of thought tomo3 would of caused them more grief with his comments.. http://insidethewatchtower.com/governing-body/stephen-lett-dumped-from-governing-body/.

FadingTruth

It doesn't seem to ring true. Lett has been getting more airtime and was blessed with the "historic" May broadcast

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27 Questions

by Saintbertholdt in

i've been on and off the forum for a couple of years now.

mostly lurking.. the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall was back in 2005 before i disassociated myself formally.. over the years i've kept up with the doctrinal changes and changes in practices.

the problem is that because i haven't been practically experiencing these changes, much of the new information has not stuck clearly in my head.

FadingTruth

What does "Need Greaters" mean?

THE WATCHTOWER (STUDY EDITION) APRIL 2015

Elders, How Do You Feel About Training Others?

IN SOME parts of the world, numerous congregations receive much help in the form of “need greaters”—brothers and sisters who have moved in from abroad. These self-sacrificing Witnesses have a large share in bringing in the spiritual harvest. But what would happen if these hardworking Kingdom preachers were to leave the country? In many congregations, there would not be enough qualified local brothers to care for all the congregation responsibilities. Hence, “need greaters” serving as elders have a compelling mission—that of helping local brothers to become shepherds of the flock.

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Top Cult Expert Steven Hassan makes statement about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

thought this had to be made.

FadingTruth

If you go to the Amazon link Watchtower-Free posted and then "Look inside", it has this quote:

Still others, such as Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons have been highly visible for many decades. In the early editions of Combating Mind Control, I did not include stories about those aberrant Christian groups.
However, over the years I have been contact by many people who were born into those organizations, telling me how the book helped them.
Paradoxically, because the earlier editions didn't mention either group, the book wasn't banned by church leaders and so it was widely read by church members as a result

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27 Questions

by Saintbertholdt in

i've been on and off the forum for a couple of years now.

mostly lurking.. the last time i set foot in a kingdom hall was back in 2005 before i disassociated myself formally.. over the years i've kept up with the doctrinal changes and changes in practices.

the problem is that because i haven't been practically experiencing these changes, much of the new information has not stuck clearly in my head.

FadingTruth

4. Presiding Overseer is called the Coordinator for the Body of Elders, or COBE.

12. "Need Greaters". Maybe I wasn't paying attention before, but this latest Watchtower study was the first time I read that expression in print.

20. There are no longer two day conventions, just one day

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2015 Convention

by wifibandit in

pixel, cappytan, and wifibandit present for your consideration:.

https://youtu.be/g16_p3tncxq?list=plrw9u-n1z2m-_z5_a55vmqj1biuwnslhq.

the saturday program will be added tomorrow, followed by the sunday program the next day..

FadingTruth

Hey I don't mean to be rude, but why do we want to help share the content of the assembly?

For those of us that are faders or still viewed by others as "in", this will be a convenient way to watch the program without having to waste our time and money on driving, hotels, and seeing people we'd rather not. Sometimes knowing the content of the program is vital to keep up appearances.

A big thankyou to Wifi, Cappy and Pixel

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if your newly baptized Jehovah hears your prayers more. so does that me he doesnt give a bleep about what the GB prayes for

by goingthruthemotions in

things that make you rotate your head slightly and say whaaaaaaat.

how in the heck does the gb trick the sheeple to think that a newly baptized persons prayers are more powerful that everyone else.

maybe even stronger the self appointed god's, aka (governing body) aka ( monkey feces).

FadingTruth

sounds familiar.
Reference please?

It was in the May Broadcast, about the 45 min mark, when they're out bowling.

"He reminded me that as a newly baptized witness, my prayers are much more readily received."

No scripture quoted afterwards to back that claim up.

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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.

by FadingTruth in

august 2015 awake .

quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.

why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.

FadingTruth

They will just silently change the online article to appease the sh!tstorm

Cappytan, yes they might change the online article but some people will notice. I think it's worth mentioning that the January Awake with the removal of the Professor Rama Singh misquote is what started my doubts and subsequent fade.

I had downloaded the PDF and was confused because I was certain a Canadian professor was quoted when I first read the article. Then I found the paper version. I googled "Professor Rama Singh" (the WT quoted him, so it must be alright to read his works) in order to research and deepen my faith. From there I noticed JWFacts & JWSurvey... Kudos on them picking innocuous domain names, otherwise I might not have checked.