Posts by VoidEater

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Getting the forum back on track

by Simon in

recently we seem to have had a few different dramas and subsequent fallout on the fourm which i feel has detracted from its purpose.

with this in mind we have decided that we need to bring the forum back on track and as such we will be clamping down on a lot of the aggressive / insulting posts which have begun to become the norm for a few people.

we will also be clamping down on the paranoid assusation type of comments against newbies, if someone joins the fourm and you do not believe everything they post - so what, why do we need to hound them away with shouts of troll and fake etc, just ignore them if you dont beleive them.

VoidEater

Laser:

Funny how quoting something said years ago is taken as going out of context, which I agree it is. But isn't that what this forum is all about, quoting the WTS for things that happened years and years back.

A discussion board isn't going to have the same consequences of not accepting medical treatment, being shunned, or trapped in abusive relationships. A discussion board isn't going to presume to tell people the status of their relationship with God. There's a somehwat different impact here, yes?

Hillary:

has by default already been reading the Board. They know what to expect when they start posting.

Nope. My bad. I jumped in with both feet as soon as I found the board. And I disagree with your premise that this discussion board is a place where abusive behavior is fine and dandy - as with any community, standards of conduct will be come into play. Those standards will come from both the community (through implicit or explicit negotiation and choices of participation levels) and from the moderators. I reject your seeming "no holds barred" attitude.

PS - you say "Nobody has argued" that "rude is cool or in some way benefical", yet Burn has done that very thing - he relates that he is motivated by rude comments, as below (unless this is sarcasm and it is escaping me).

Burn:

I find that getting flamed convinces me more of the correctness of the other's argument than any logical argumentation. No one ever called me an idiot in the Watchtower so I left. Now I am free to be recieve the kind of offense that can only lead to personal growth.

That's fine for you, and I will never be able to teach you anything (not that you want to be my student!). You may have noticed that you appear to be in a minority, however. I, for one, find it difficult to hear anything you have to say because I have to also contend with what I find abusive and threatening ("Screw you", name calling, inferences that you'd be happy to shoot people that disagree with you). Maybe this is sarcasm on your part, but from what little I know of you from your posts, it's scary that the sarcasm is lost and that this is exactly the persona being generated. I offer this as feedback on your impact, not as an indictment of who you are - I don't know you. The more I read your posts, the less I want to read more.

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Kids Still Get Whacked @ Armageddon. Current Light. (With Pix!)

by Open mind in

if you've clicked around on other sites, you can find the troubling picture i grew up with from the old orange paradise lost book.

a big old armageddon earthquake that is swallowing up people, churches, a bicycle, a dog!

) and of course, a little girl in a dress that is indelibly planted in my memory chips.

VoidEater

Carla: Almost lost my lunch on that one...

OM: "Big juicy grapes and catatonic looking zombies all headed for the sky or eternal tiger petting." You're simply brilliant, LOL! The thing is, I love tigers (ask AK-Jeff).

Nvr: You, too, have made my day ("Nothing says "Vindication of Universal Sovereignty" like dead children being eaten by divinely commissioned birds of prey.") I think that's my tag line...

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What's The Best/Easiest Way To Get Your Computer Running Faster?

by minimus in

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i have windows/xp.

even my outlook express mail runs slower than before.

VoidEater

Check for viruses and adware
Remove unnecessary files/documents
Run Disk Cleanup
Run Defragmenter
If possible, put your page file on a DOS partition, preferably on another hard drive than your boot drive
Have only one app open at a time
Increase RAM
Upgrade hardware/buy a new machine
Remove unnecessary programs (Add/Remove Software)
Install SP2 if you haven't

It's kinda like saying "my car doesn't go as fast as it used to" - could be a hundred different things...

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Mother-in-law gets a letter from JWs

by Jim_TX in

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first - let me point out that (for those that do not know this), neither my wife nor any of her family are jws.

my wife studied with a jw - but that was many years ago.

she never got too far into the jw religion - but got a knowledge of what - and who they are.

VoidEater

Hey, pioneers! Build a Website - then count every pageview as a call! Sort your log files by client Ip IP to track return visits!

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So just what or who DO you have faith in now?

by oompa in

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i never used to wonder about death, or what comes after, because i had all the answers!

but now i really wonder, but not with fear....it feels odd, and i am curious.

this planet and universe are so incredible and complex that to me it defies logic that someone must have had a creative hand it.

VoidEater

The essence of my spirituality (if you will) is rooted too much in the present to worry about "what happens after death". I have faith that I will die - and will find out what that's like when it happens.

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Jesus was a false prophet....

by dawg in

i posted this on another thread, but if you read matthew 24, we see that jesus was indeed a false prophet... he doesn't give the day or hour of the end times but he says that this generation will not pass away until all these things occur... and what generation was he talking about?

he was talking to his diciples and telling them you will see this and that and thus and such....especially take a gander at matt 24: 33-36...jesus thought he was living in the last days and that he would come down from a cloud from the heavens...that stars would fall from the sky, and the like... just read it and tell me what you think.

i wonder if jesus was an essene, they thought they were living in the end of time, in fact they predicted a messiah would come during their days... .

VoidEater

Thanks, Awakened. "To those with a hammer, all problems appear as nails." And if it's not a nail, we'll make it into a nail. We tend to make logical constructions that match our beliefs.

Hi Dawg: Trying to determine which words in the Bible are supposed to be literal, and which poetic, is so much shifting sand to me - whoever is at the helm and making the interpretation has in essence carte blanche to prove whatever point they would like to. For that reason, I don't think we can rely on the Bible as a tool of prophecy. "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." Okaaaaaaay...you have to do some real mental gymnastics for that to take on literal meaning.

If the destruction of Jeruselem is the event Jesus spoke about, then maybe his prophesy was fulfilled. If "generation" needs to take on a specialized meaning, it could even mean something like the race of man - then the scripture "This generation shall not pass, till...Heaven and earth shall pass away" becomes self-fulfilling - when man is gone, there will be no more men.

You need a secret decoder ring to make anything more out of it.

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Brant Jones Letters to and From the Watchtower- 2005-06

by uninformed in

thanks to scully, i have figured out where to put these letters so all that would like to access them and read them can do so.--just click on the link below.. don't expect a lot from the letters, as i am a brick mason and not the brightest bulb on the (new) christmas tree.. in my correspondence with the wt, i exerted all my effort to keep the discussion on just the un, even though i did have misgivings on other matters.

i thought if i was able to keep the discussion on just the un that it would prove to be more difficult for them to disfellowship me, as it was their conduct that i was opposing, conduct that violated their own teachings.. it worked to some extent, as they had to trump up charges on us that we started our own religion because we had the memorial celebration in 2006 with our family rather than at the kingdumb hall.

it was a real pleasure to be disfellowshipped for their sin.

VoidEater

Jaydoe: "it would be sad to get into trouble over the UN scandal." Sadder still to get DFed over joining the Y just for the pool.

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Brant Jones Letters to and From the Watchtower- 2005-06

by uninformed in

thanks to scully, i have figured out where to put these letters so all that would like to access them and read them can do so.--just click on the link below.. don't expect a lot from the letters, as i am a brick mason and not the brightest bulb on the (new) christmas tree.. in my correspondence with the wt, i exerted all my effort to keep the discussion on just the un, even though i did have misgivings on other matters.

i thought if i was able to keep the discussion on just the un that it would prove to be more difficult for them to disfellowship me, as it was their conduct that i was opposing, conduct that violated their own teachings.. it worked to some extent, as they had to trump up charges on us that we started our own religion because we had the memorial celebration in 2006 with our family rather than at the kingdumb hall.

it was a real pleasure to be disfellowshipped for their sin.

VoidEater

Brant: You are brilliant and steadfast in demanding the truth. The WTS: Evasive weasels hiding their infidelity.

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Did you think your life was over as you knew it? Were you sure?

by oompa in

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i knew, and i am beginning to think i was right.

several shrinks and therapists later, and i realize that my entire life structure is not only gone, but it was a farce in the first place.

how do you cope with that?

VoidEater

My last post for today...

How do you cope with that?

I breathe. I feel my existance. I say to myself, "There is nothing wrong, with me or this moment." I look to see if anything must be attended to right now, at this moment. I take a long, hot bath. I listen to the profound quiet inside, and know that it is peace.

40 some years and you dont have any real friends? they almost all shun you?

I am lucky. I had one. And after a time I got more.

and technically you are still a brother?

There are so many definitions of "brother". But "brother" can be such a tenuous label. I know what and who I am related to by what I feel inside, and how I see others and the outside world relating to me. Some run away - some come to me. We are all healed in the calm of a quiet mind.

how can families or marriages work when some are so entrenched?

Sometimes they can, and sometimes they don't. When everything is scraped away, we have an opportunity to create something new. Or we can stand by and see what grows. It is usually best to participate to the extent you can, accept peace where you find it, give compassion where it isn't.

(((oompa)))

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Joy Or Sorrow When You First Found Out It Was False?

by serotonin_wraith in

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for me, it was joy.

i was raised in the religion, and i always figured i'd be dying along with 6 billion others because i hated the meetings, the preaching work and the rules, morality and threats of 'jehovah'.

i did not want it to be true.. for others here, finding out it was false was a hard time to go through.. as well as asking which feelings you had at first (joy/sorrow/or add your own) i have a follow up question for those who found it hard- what was it that made the impending deaths of 6 billion people okay for you?

VoidEater

Embarrasment.