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  Loving crazy people

  by coolhandluke in

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  i don't think there is such a thing as "normal".

  i think the best we can do is either functioning or non functioning.

  we amble through life confused.

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  VoidEater

  Luke: For me it is my father. He is diagnosed as bipolar, but the functional part (which is so much more pragmatic, in a way) of the problem is that he has no skills at interacting with people. He has no interior emotional world that he can understand others through. He's a huge brain that doesn't understand what motivates 99% of the people in his life - and therefore doesn't have too good a handle on what motivates him.

  He rails against the WTS doctrines in the same breath he begs to be made one with them.

  Depression is an illness, and meds can give a buffer - but the two things that will help depression are the desire of that person to change their baseline experience, and therapy. Meds alone can make things seem better, and can open some space for reflection and motivation towards action, so they can be a good step in the right direction.

  But I'm sure you know all this already, this isn't news...I hear you...we still love them, though they seem so different in their capability to cope...
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  Would Jesus have done a better job than Jehovah?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the bible, the god of the old testament seems to be so harsh and unforgiving, while jesus seems so nice.... makes me wonder if jesus would have been god almighty, if the world would be a better place today?.

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  It seems Jesus would have much more insight into humanity, having been a human; experiencing human emotions, having a body an dlife to physically maintain, living in a social fabric.
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  resurrection

  by confused and lost in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wts denies the bodily resurrection of christ.

  here is a verse i have found which , to my way of thinking, adds weight to the bodily resurrection.

  read john 20:6,7.did you notice that the face cloth,napkin or shroud from jesus burial garments was folded up and was lying seperate from the rest of the bandages or linen strips.if ,as the wts teaches,god had simply evaporated jesus body in some way then surely all the bandages would be lying in the same place,the place where jesus body lay.i visualize the scripture this way.jesus body is restored to life.he sits up and undoes the bandages from around his head.he then lays these to one side,stands up and divests himself of the other linen cloths.i may be way off with this but it seems to fit with other scriptures relating to the bodily resurrection.

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  VoidEater

  If the Bible account is to be believed, a physicaly resurrection really makes more sense (even when "in", it was the only conclusion I could come to).
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  "If 1000 years is as one day" (another "ug" fwd email)

  by inkling in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .

  this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.

  adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .

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  Oh, Awakened, there you go again...being Awake...!

  I actually got a tear in my eye feeling sorry for all those puppy-dog-eyed email readers, fervently believing it's "so close"...

  -ve (of the Sea Monkey class)
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  Why Do YOU Come Here?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it for "friendship"?.

  to learn about jws?.

  to play fun games like werewolf?.

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  VoidEater

  Normalizing ("I'm not the only one").

  Being seen as an individual instead of a JW drone.

  Permission to express my sorrow, hurt and outrage to people that understand.

  Enjoy the company.

  It's an educational, healing and mostly fun experience.
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  describe shunning, pls

  by chickpea in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today i had occasion to go to the local ( only ) grocery store that also has a fueling center..... i saw a guy filling his van and thought he looked like one of the elders from the kh i used to attend ( it is winter, he was in civvies and had on a hat) ..... i parked went in and from the back of the head ( i would know those jug ears anywhere) i recognized another congo member, an on again off again elder......and it confirmed for me that the fellow at the gas pump was who i suspected it to be.

  i dont know if i was seen/recognized, but i was already rehearsing glib non-answers to any queries had i been approached....... at any rate, i made no effort to approach either one..... is that tantamount to shunning?.

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  VoidEater

  Shunning is where desire for contact is thwarted. If two parties have no interest in contact (in the moment or long term), they may both choose to avoid contact (that is not shunning). But where one party seeks contact and the other intentionally denies it (on religious principle) - that is shunning.
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  God Speaks!

  by ringo5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  while looking for some stats on the number of people under psychiatric care that hear god's voice, i came across this.... .

  http://cdbaby.com/cd/godtalks2.

  i don't have much else to add, except god being god and all, he should be available for a mp3 download by now.....

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  VoidEater

  God told me that this cassette/CD is a false message. It was backmasked on an on old Pat Boone 45.
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  Dear Friend, You are Satan so don't talk to me

  by Younglove1999 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some background info: .

  in 2006, i was still a jw (jehovah's witness) we were attending a congregation in v town.

  i had been going there since we were married, and ben had grew up in that congregation.

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  YoungLove: So sad...I understand, I am sorry...

  Serotonin says: "dismiss all criticism of the group without listening to it." I would add, blame others for their own actions, too.

  I can only add that my dad's mom, upon my dad's forced DA, said the same thing - when he comes back to the truth they can have a relationship again. My grandmother cut off all connection - not just with my dad but with our whole family. I went from being the favorite, first grandchild to being a non-entity (because of my dad's "sin"). Eventually my dad went through the motions process of being reinstated, and grandma called my mom: "Tell my son that we can have a relationship again." My mom said, "Tell him yourself." We haven't spoken since.
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  JW's and star trek?

  by bboyneko in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why are there so many star trek refferences among x-jw's?

  like the borg getting assimilated, etc.

  i heard before that star trek was very popular in bethel despite warnings not to watch it.

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  VoidEater

  As a relative old-timer, I grew up with TOS. It was Satanic, of course. But it spoke to my values - equality, exploration, diplomacy.

  Everything the WTS did not have on tap.
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  Multi-tasking? Is it a skill or a disorder?

  by Crumpet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you tend to multi-task or hone in one job, giving it your full concentration until its finished?.

  would you say your ability/inability to multi-task is an attribute or a curse?.

  the reason i ask is that i seem to have a very short attention span.

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  VoidEater

  The *ability* to multi-task is a skill.

  The *compulsion* to multi-task is a disorder.

  ;-)