I learned in marriage class to always sneak a criticism in between two compliments, if you have to be critical. My teacher was especially insistent on that. My wife hates it when I do that.From what you are saying Eden I must remind her of the one the elders at her DF. She usually responds with unimaginative insults typical of a second language speaker who is forbidden to use curse words (though she murmurs the nastiest curse words her language has to offer) and also forbidden to attend college. She bluntly attacks my character, so that is when I start mixing condescending collegiate psychobabble with ghetto profanity in a furious masculine bellow. Think Dr. Phil's lovechild as a guest on Jerry Springer.
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Compliment or criticism - what affects you most?
by EdenOne ina bit of introspection on this one ... just read on someone's post that a compliment makes him "float" for hours, and it got me thinking; within the spectrum of comments that people make about me, from compliment to criticism, which is the type that most affects me?.
after my experience as a jehovah's witness, i find that i've become suspicious of compliments and over-sensitive to criticism.
because a common technique of elders was to compliment someone before going down to business, that is, giving hard counseling or discipline.
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Thank you for redirecting me to the right organization!
by economy inthank you, jw.net and cofty, for redirecting me to the right organization!.
when i posted why did god permit scriptures to be corrupted?
then i thought, if there is an organization that believes all scriptures are corrupted (which obviously makes it enemy of all religions), that organization is not ordinary, but gutsy, lionhearted, and worthy of close examination!
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Since this is the shill for a cult thread now. I miss my old cult. It was a LOT more fun than the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Brahma Kumaris. My cult had culture! Monthly all night dancing with herb, drink, barbecue, dancing, and live djs, rappers and musicians all praising Jah. Our Prophet would drain the funds when he rarely came to town but only because the party he would throw was even BIGGER. We did have our promised land in Ethiopia with an excellent accredited school and clinic that really does the work of God, that the naked be fed, the sick nourished the aged protected and the infants cared for. The only real requirement was to be there, and be willing to do your part which would have meant leaving my wife for the Big City. You could belong to another church, disagree with the Prophet, run for political office, get a Ph. D., basically do whatever you wanted except maybe being gay or a satanist. Well, not being brainwashed, I chose my marriage over my cult and I am now a reluctant accessory to my wife doing work for her cult. And thanks to summer soldiers like me, my cult is disbanded in my state and is on the other side of the country. Maybe it was a cult, but it was my cult, the only place where I fit in. Everyone in that cult is still friends on Facebook, we share old photos of back in the day. I am just like one of those boomer hippies who talked about the 60s commune except I am a generation X Rasta and I talk about the 90s. The best part of it was that belonging to the 144,000 cost only 20c a week, with you free to live your personal life as you pleased. Now how can the JWs, or even mainline churches that teach tithing compete with that?
I did get baptised into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church to fill the void in my soul from leaving the cult, but after I got married to a Jehovah's Witness, there wasn't really a place for me. The Orthodox women love to flirtingly remind me that until we get joined in Holy Matrimony she is a only concubine in the eyes of the Church. Concubinage being perfectly respectable though short of holiness. I tried doing vegan lent according to orthodox teaching but without dairy the oxalates from all the vegetable sources nearly gave me a kidney episode. So I was too ashamed to even come to Easter Vigil.
The Twelve Tribes of Israel (Historic Mansion of Rastafari founded by Vernon Carrington) is labelled as a cult. Because we allegedly use religion as an excuse to party without going through the permit process most nightclubs need, because a third world backwater is our promised land and because we have the same name as the (Spriggs) Twelve Tribes, and our Black and Latino membership also get us confused with the Black Hebrews, thus guilt by having the same name. But I love and miss my old cult, which is why tearing down my wife's religion, and teaching my stepkids that it is better to be an atheist than to be a tool of the Governing Body (as it is better to worship no God than to worship idols) actually hurts me more than it does my family. Being a part of that cult was the best days of my life.
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Golden Rule: Pure Garbage?
by willmarite inon another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.
she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.
i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.
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JW unwittingly shares article PROMOTING pot smoking
by cappytan inso, my wife is surfing facebook today.
comes across a post by a jw "friend" of ours titled "8 scientific reasons you should never smoke weed.".
it turns out to be an article actually showing evidence to the contrary!
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I think a lot more JWs smoke pot than would admit it. I know because I know of some who grow it. There are so many skunks spraying everywhere I live that giving people a talk based on smelling like marijuana simply isn't done, whether you are a cop or a jw elder. -
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Discrediting an individual so as to avoid giving due thought and attention to the argument
by jambon1 init seems that this has been a tactic that the jw's have used for many years.. i haven't contributed to this board in a wee while but upon my return a month or so ago, i was astounded to read about the article where the society described opposers as 'mentally diseased'.. it's a very basic strategy and one that works.. i myself experienced this with my wife during my more vocal periods of opposition to the society.
for a good while i had a problem with drink.
not a violent problem or anything, just that i drank more.
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Just had a blow up with jw mom and she said the bible referenced angels being called gods, it that true?
by Question_Mans_interpretation inlong story short my mom was acting weird, snubbing me, when i tried bringing her grandkids to see her, so i tried again and this time i just went up and hugged her since she wouldn't hug me or acknowledge any affection.
when i released her i immediately saw her annoyed look and asked what?
bang, she unleashes a floodgate of how she's still mad at me for going to another church that believes the trinity.
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Data Dog it is significant however that the Ebionites, those Jewish Christians who chose to follow Jesus as their Greatest Sage rather than Christianity, did in fact view Jesus as a human manifestation of the Archangel Michael. This is coming from a man who speaks and reads Hebrew and can't stand Jehovah's Witnesses. -
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The GB teaches witnesses to be disobediant and dishonest
by stuckinarut2 ini was just thinking that it seems like the gb teaches witnesses to be dishonest and disobediant...and encourages a kind of "secret agent" mystique about such conduct.
a boldness to act this way.. they use "theocratic warfare" tactics by saying we can be dishonest with authorities if we are acting by "gods standards..".. they teach parents to do the same with their kids...teach them to outrightly disobey laws "if they contravene the gb standards" (eg flag salute, voting in politics etc...).
it is ok to lie about "future fairy tale paradise".
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Afrikanman what do you think of Fela Kuti? Marcus Garvey and Fela Kuti are the only African Libertarians I can think of. -
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Here at last, My JC letter. No response but heard thru the grapevine that I was DA'd anyways.
by Question_Mans_interpretation inhello all, i finally got around to posting my letter to my judicial committee meeting requests.
sorry its kind of long, it came to 4 pages because of the special meeting requests.
tuesday january 28, 2014.
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You should have nailed it to the door of the Kingdom Hall like Martin Luther!
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Why the JW's mental image of Paradise is a pipe dream
by Sour Grapes inyesterday during the witchtower study, every one was.
talking about how wonderful paradise will be with no food.
shortages, perfect weather, no pollution, no disease, and be.
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I was watching a lecture about the Theology of JRR Tolkiens' world and the elves never died or aged, but in their immortality they became depressed weary of life, of seeing other living things die or even go extinct. That is why they would still fight for the right thing hoping to gloriously end it all. Death was even called 'The gift of men.' It is strange that the Western view of reincarnation is triumphal in providing a more rational explanation of the metaphor of resurrection (some fundamentalist Mormons even call it baby resurrection), while in the Dharmic tradition the goal of reincarnation is to escape the painful cycle of death and rebirth. The Kingdom is something to build in the here and now, not waiting for Jehovah.
Vidiot there was more Zoroastrian thought cribbed by Old Testament writers than anything. Mormonism is fascinating because it somehow goes full circle and brings a lot of Zoroastrian themes back into Christianity.
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World becoming more religious not less
by Stealth inthis is bad news for the evolution of humankind.
even worse, islam is the fastest growing religion.
http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html?cmpid=nl_ls_weekly_2015-04-03 .
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Even atheists see the value of belonging to a congregation and meditation. Belief in God and religiosity are two different things.