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  How was child molestation handled before 1996?

  by neverendingjourney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as i recall, the abhor what is wicked article came out in 1996. in it, the society outlined their new child abuse policy, namely that known child molesters could never hold any positions of responsibility in the congregations anymore.

  from what i understand, there were letters to the bodies of elders and special c.o.

  instructions that further clarified the new position on handling child sexual molestation.

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  martinwellborne

  Oh-no you must be wrong he is a wonderful bro'
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  I've been invited to a birthday party

  by martinwellborne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it must be 35+ years since i have been to one.

  i can't believe the timing, i stop going to meetings and up pops an invitation, is it satan?

  or am i messed up?

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  It must be 35+ years since I have been to one. I can't believe the timing, i stop going to meetings and up pops an invitation, is it SATAN? or am i messed up?
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  Who dirtied God's name the most ?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  put yourself in a jw frame of mind for a moment..... lets see now, who dirtied god's name most, the jw pedofiles, the watchtower sweeping this under the carpet, or jwd exposing this ?.

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  martinwellborne

  it's got to be the carpet bit
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  The RUSSELL PARADOX

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  predestination was jehovah's plan for man.

  to heaven or to hell you were assigned.. how troubling this must be!.

  wondering where in wise jehovah's plan your mother spent eternity; a bright and sensitive lad might ruminate at night on matters weighing heavy on his heart; why babies died and mothers went away and what might be your destiny in god's grand scheme of things.. the ironies in life!

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  martinwellborne

  yes he'd be disfellowshipped, but these people would also disfellowship KING DAVID a man after God's heart
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  Barbara Anderson's Paedophilia CD: The Watchtowers Chocolate Cake Defence

  by Duncan in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i received my copy of barbara andersons cd paedophilia in an american religion a month or two ago, and i have been reading through it since.. what follows, although i have called this a review, is in no sense a scholarly consideration of the legal merits of the cases described, a task for which i am wholly unqualified.

  these are, rather, my subjective reflections on the material presented, the impressions i gathered while reading the legal filings, my untrained, common-man appraisal of the cases laid out in those documents.

  ill also admit to being swayed by tone of voice adopted, and to using my own common-sense yardstick in determining the reasonableness of the statements made, the responses given and the arguments put forward.

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  martinwellborne

  It also reminds of Bart Simpson

  1.."I didn't do it "

  2.."Nobody saw me do it"

  3.. "You can't prove anything thing"

  The legal sidewinding in this case seems unbelievable, but their lawyers have had plenty practice in court.
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  Keeping in touch/making a clean break

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wanted to get your opinion on something.

  how do you all feel about getting in touch with long-lost ex-jws?

  there are a couple of people i used to know that i would love to hang out with again.

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  I have a few old friends that I would love to rekindle the former closeness with that I felt so long ago. But because of the suspicion that is rife from top to toe through the borg, it seems to carry on after leaving. the "what if these ones were to return to the fold? would they turn me in? scenario" rears it's ugly head....... IT REALLY IS CULT TACTICS we are suffering from.
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  SHOULD JWS DRINK CAPPUCHINO?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is named after an order of monks.. therefore should a jw drink cappuchino in view of its connection with a part of babylon the great?.

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  Caffeine is a drug, a stimulant, found in "food" such as coffee, tea and chocolate products. A cup of coffee contains between 100 and 150 milligrams of caffeine, a cup of tea 90 milligrams, a bottle of cola drink 40 to

  72 milligrams, a cup of cocoa 50 milligrams and a bar (85 grams; 3 ounces) of bittersweet chocolate about 75 milligrams. With most persons caffeine stimulates the heart and kidneys, quickens reaction time and

  promotes alertness. Caffeine, though, seems to aid some older persons to relax. Also, caffeine is sometimes used to treat headaches, because it affects the blood vessels of the brain. Yes, the drug caffeine

  produces effects on the human body. However, does the Bible condemn eating or drinking things that contain natural substances that may stimulate or relax you?

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  No!

  But i get the point :-)

  There is room for contradiction here.
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  JW involved in Maddie's kidnapping?

  by behemot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23422086-details/murat's+lover:+'i+was+at+jehovah's+witness+meeting+when+madeleine+was+snatched'/article.do.

  strange story though: this witness lady shares a flat with her "estranged husband" and has a "lover"???.

  anybody knows about her current status?.

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  Sounds as though she may be studying?
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  Why the molestation issue won't bring down JW's

  by proplog2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ?molestation is not a problem unique to jws.

  it happens all the time everywhere.

  it is a human problem.

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  Yes a lot of good argument therein. But they are all so very good at quoting 1Cor 5:6-8 "OUR [cause for] boasting is not fine. Do YOU not know that a little leaven ferments the whole lump? 7 Clear away the old

  leaven, that YOU may be a new lump, according as YOU are free from ferment. For, indeed, Christ our passover has been sacrificed. 8 Consequently let us keep the festival, not with old leaven, neither with leaven of

  badness and wickedness, but with unfermented cakes of sincerity and truth" If their policy is at fault then whole lump is rotten.
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  Recession Coming?

  by new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  every year john mitchell (the head economist for u.s.bank) gives a talk to us realtors, in portland or.

  he talks first about the world economy, then the u.s.a. and ends up with oregon's economy ....he usually is right on.

  he perdicted housing prices peeking the third quarter of "06" he this came to pass.

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  martinwellborne

  Dollar 0 Gold 1.

  dollar down gold up

  GOLD $801.60 per ounce

  all the economists like hard money