No meetings in 4 years. Nada, zilch. Not DA'd nor DF'd.
Just faded off into the sunset. Only contact with jw's is my older son, shame.
NMG
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if so, how often.. do you still attend the memorial?.
i never go, ever, and haven't been to a memorial in about 6 years (been too long to accurately remember) - i'm too far gone.
No meetings in 4 years. Nada, zilch. Not DA'd nor DF'd.
Just faded off into the sunset. Only contact with jw's is my older son, shame.
NMG
Did you look inside the cover to see if they printed their name in it and forgot that little bit if evidence?
NMG
out of all religions, catholicism, to me, is wrong and clearly could never be the truth.
Reniaa...............So, you are saying that the jw's changed the generation so that there would be more time for sheep like ones to embrace the truth, is that correct? So, then, JW's are in control of when the big " A " comes? And not some god figure? Hmmm They do have you totally brain controlled don't they. You continue to be the jw apologist that you are. And now you feel that you can debate what other religions teach just like in the old days f jw's when we would stick our foot in a door and rany and rave about how wrong they are for THEIR beliefs. Pity.
NMG
jose and carlos are panhandlers.
they panhandle in different areas of a southern california town.
carlos panhandles just as long as jose but only collects 2 to 3 dollars every day.
Personally. I LOVED the joke. However, I find it very uncomfortable to have EX JW's expounding POLITICAL CORRECTNESS here. IMO some folks need to thicken up their skin just a tad. I had my fill of people telling me what to SAY, what to THINK and what to BELIEVE when I was a dub. Speaking of which, isn't the term DUB a rather disparaging terminology for people??
I am............nomoreguilt
1. the elder i was in a bissness with decided a hand shake was not a contract, and paid me $500 dollars instead of the $3,000 he should have....i felt so stupid, but quit with him and treated him like a disfellowshiped person since....also he would pay me half a days wage when i worked from 8am till 3pm ???????
when told about this he said sorry but "couldn't work out how to re-emburse the lost hours.".
2. my elderly mum sold some furniture when moving, to a sister who promised to pay from her single parent pension in small installments........nope!
I will leave out the foul language that would best describe my feelings on this matter.
1. I had a, ahem, brother that was my business partner. We had a great viable business, a little bit of normal business debt , however we were upside down with the IRS to the tune of about $24,000.00. He neglected to tell me that he hadn't been paying our quarterlys. Fool me, oh well. Next thing you know, he comes to me and tells me that he is burnt in our business and asks me to buy him out for his share. He figured it should be about, oh, let's say, $20,000.00. Well, I had heard some rumours about his true desires, he had solicited our employees and told them that he was leaving My business and that they could leave ME and work for themselves and he would sell them the materials that they needed to do what we did. I caught wind of this and told him he could have the materiels he had in his vehicle , about $5,000.00 worth and we would SPLIT the IRS debt, with our attorney's assistance, of course. Come to find out, he had absconded with about $10,000.00 worth of our materiels in the 2 months leading up to his announcement and sold them off for CASH in order to finance the construction of his new home that he was building. He eventually missed HIS payments to the IRS and the IRS sent me a levy against any monies I may have owed to him. Well, I caled the IRS agent and told him of a few business accounts of his that held monthly recievables of his until the 10th of each month. The next thing you know, I got a couple of calls from these very accounts and they asked me if " I " pay MY taxes? Why sure I do, they said , OK come and do business with us, NOT HIM!! Thank you very much. The IRS had levied his payable accounts with those businesses and they didn't very much apprecaite sending the IRS an extra check.
The list of CROOKS amongst the FRIENDS that I could relate is very long, and I really don't want to waste any more of MY time with that sort of TRASHY PEOPLE.
It seems as though WE are marks when we extend ourselves to FRIENDS that have their own agendas in mind and the old adage applies: NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH A FRIEND OR RELATIVE.
NMG
NMG
yes that is the title of the first article, i repeat: the house - to -house ministry - why important now?.
second: meeting the challenges of the house-to-house ministry.
third: it is "god who makes it grow"!.
happy2bfree..........WELCOME TO JWD..
nmg
i remember first hearing it after the generation change of 95.. a sister answered up at the wt and said "even if armageddon isn't coming, its still the best way to live.".
i have heard others say: "even if it isn't true, it's still the best way of life.".
my mother said it a few weeks ago!
My 34 year old son stated to his best friend, raised a jw but never bit : I don't know if it is the truth, but IT WORKS for ME....
NMG
sorry this has turned out longer than i thought.anyway i lived the life of a single mother fell away from the organisation,and eventually met a (worldly) guy who is the most loving guy i have ever met,my best friend,lover and soulmate.i was disfellowshipped 4 months ago because we live with each other and plan to get married in september,unacceptable to the society hence my disfellowshipping.it has broke my mum and dads heart and im so so sorry for this,i love them so much,but no longer want or believe in the jw beliefs.
i still believe in god but dont know where im bound as regards my faith,i really do want to have something.
apart from my mum and dad and the shunning arrangement im so happy,the happiest i have ever been in years,and my 2 youngest ones are happy as well..my eldest daughter is 16 and planning on getting baptised in july which is tearing me apart,she is so like me,but is being brainwashed by a certain crowd of witnesses,need i say anymore...my eldest son who is 18 isnt in the truth and feels the same way i do... anyway thanks for this forum and hope to hear from likeminded friends soon.
freespirit67.........WELCOME to the neighborhood!! We're all here, every sort of free spirited jw and Ex jw. i'm happy that you are happier now, as I am also. You'll find healing for yourself here as there are many like you here as you will soon be meeting them. Take care dear and we'll be seeing more of you I am sure.
NMG
i guess its time to throw my little story out there.
i keep reading everyones stories and thinking how brave you have all been, coming out of the organisation and facing all the repercussions of doing so.. .
i only last august disassociated myself.
Welcome Str8 ! Yours is an exellant read. I can see by your style that you hold nothing back from your life. You are honest with yourself and with those that you loved. I appreciate that in a person. Everyone of us here at JWD have a story to tell. Some of us do tell it and some of us don't. Only when you have come to terms with your own life can you truly be happy. The alternatives to being honest with yourself or another person can have tagic consequences. I am happy to see you with us.
Many others have posted similar events in their lives to yours, some here at JWD are still living a LIE, I pity them. Retched, miserable people that can only blame others for their lot in life. They think that they are invisible to others, but they are actually quite transparent. You are a GEM amongst pebbles in your dealing with the wts and with your family. I hope all goes well for you in the future as regards your folks.
My wife has a nephew, he's 24, 25 something. He is gay. A very nice young man, he presents himself well, is very respectful of the feelings of his family and is monogomous, celibate I believe. From what my wife, not a jw, has told me about him, his life as a child and teenager was horrific in his own mind. he always KNEW that he was differant and tried his damndest to not be. He made many attempts to date girls but he never felt comfortable in these relationships. My wife ALWAYS knew that he was gay, even as a child she knew that this was his make-up. I enjoy his company when he visits, as I am NO LONGER judgemental of any man , contrary to how the wts would FORCE us to be.
Hang in here with us, you'll learn alot here. Don't mind the minority of biggots here or the SELF RIGHTEOUS REALONE. Some folks still have an agenda to perpetuate and refuse to get the drift that they aren't appreciated here. Loving kindness goes a long way.
Take care Str8
NMG
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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ahwatxmkt3s.
Another great song for mothers is ...Momma, by Connie Francis. It will make you cry.
NMG