sally, from 3rd rock from the sun, sobbed:
country music singers live such sad lives
sally, from 3rd rock from the sun, sobbed:
country music singers live such sad lives
i do.
i totally feel disdain for the organization.
they suck..
i have to say not the people, as a general rule,
although there are some real anal-puckers who
play the game like it is an episode of survivor....
contempt for the WTS?
i would have to raise my
opinion of the b0rg to hold
it and its minions in contempt
the "priscilla" deliberations.. gb subcommittees now re-considering role of women in the organization.. example of phoebe as "diakonos" revisited.. could women be appointed to ministerial servant positions in view of the need in congregations?.
what's your take on latest rumors?
http://www.extjforo.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14821.
holy mother of god!!!!
this is for an upcoming youtube project.
i would love to do this on a mass scale... think there might be something "big" in the results.. 1. were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?.
2. when you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truthtm, (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?.
here is my answer to what i think of the
doctrines of the WTS: crap
this is for an upcoming youtube project.
i would love to do this on a mass scale... think there might be something "big" in the results.. 1. were you a born-in (including those who's parents converted while they were still children) or did you convert as an adult?.
2. when you left, did you still (a) fully believe in the truthtm, (b) partially believe or (c) realise it was all a load of crap?.
1) convert
2) my fade began for highly personal
reasons that had nothing to do with
the b0rg, but resulted in less and less
"association"; a happenstance landing
at JWD was like a splash of cold water...
i was yearning to rekindle a faith in BS...
and JWD brought me to my senses....
so i am saying: left utterly disillusioned
no longer able to believe anything WTS
3) no
4) sentimental deist leaning toward atheism
list some thoughts and suggestions for anyone thinking about fading from the organization..
i did not plan a fade, nor did i realize
i was in a fade til i stumbled upon the
link to a link to a link that ended up at
JWD.... and i have to say the sequence
of events delineated on this thead and
the links to other threads is spot on:
giving up hosting BS, not answering,
slipping meeting attendance, dropping out of TMS,
slacking, and then inacitve status, in FS were
gradual but inexorably led to the end of an
intensely painful self-doubt about my worth
in the eyes of jah..... time lapse: between
18 months and 2 years, as i recall
the last contact we had with the elduhs
was them asking my hub if they could
do a shepherding call, and when i said
"if all they have to offer is to study the
'family happiness book', no thanks!"
funny that.... they never talked to us again
the thought of it scares me so much i can't even think straight... just writing this makes my heart race like you wouldn't believe.. i need to face my dad and mom.
my dad abused us, my mom allowed the abuse.
i need to face him with my two older brothers - the ones who got it the worst and who never faced them about it.... i know my mind will go blank so i'm simply going to write out what i have to say and read it to them.
like was already said, get some kind
of professional guidance to prepare
you for the possibilities that can occur....
like there might be admission of perpetration
or more than likely a flat out denial,
not to mention emotional manipulation
my father never acknowledged the impact his
incestuous forays had on my sense of self and
emotional well-being and my mother never
apologized or in any way admitted the harm
caused by the severe physical/emotional/psychological
abuse her alcoholism unleashed on her children.....
i have had a series of therapy/counseling seasons
and they helped significantly to break the generational
cycle of deep-seated abuse issues... hopefully it ends here....
melbourne australia district convention last saturday this jackass pioneer/elder gets on stage and relates how he and his wife have served where the need is great in many congs hoping for the "privledge" of being a c.o couple....he expressed "disapointment and discouragement" when he was not appointed....he moved to a new assignment in the chinese cong.. the speaker thanks him for his "honesty" but i was thinking what are his motives for serving his brothers?
is this a good example for pioneering?
must be a reason his ambition...... sorry i mean, goals could not be reached.
the MTS/PO/CoBoE from the KH i had attended
was extremely interested in attaining CO status...
widowed, college-educated, self-employed as
a photographer (excuse me... photojournalist)
he was definitely stretching for the job....
he was a real rock star when first assigned...
generated a lot of enthusiasm and crazy numbers
for mtg attendance and FS participation....
for a while.... no one is THAT good to keep interest
in the hamster wheel race at high levels
did substitute work in the circuit, always on the
platform at DC/CA.... never heard if he made it....
he was one who would have been disappointed
to have been overlooked.....
i was always frustrated with how much counsel and advice was given at the kingdom hall on how not to offend others.
it seemed like complete immunity was given to the person getting offended.
they were never counselled to just mind their own business, but if anyone had any reason to be offended about something you had done, the elders, or that person, would be sure to let you know about it.. most of the time it was nobody's business.
i hated that whinging "might stumble so-and-so"
crap when some uber-righteous JW would tsk tsk
something we chose to do or not do....
jesus tapdancing christ!
pull on your big girl panties and
deal with life, princess! you aint
all that and never will be!!!!!!!!!
i'm sorry to gadget, who brought up a similar topic & it reminded me of something i was told 2 days ago.
is it true that jw's are the majority of people who are currently imprisoned for their beliefs?
can you give me examples if this is or is not the case?
ouigers!