Posts by Gringa

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They want to make me an elder :-O

by outofthebox in

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this is the third elder that tells me that the body of elders will recommend me as an elder in the next visit of the co.. what do you think i should do?

some facts:.

i am still 'in' because of my family.i am ms.i am doing 10+ fake hours (well, some months it is fake), so they see my "spiritual" progress.-ootb.

Gringa

What World Travel said - DITTO!!!

I can't say any more without being really disrespectful, so I will leave it at that.

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Could an EX-JW Dating Site work?

by Bourne in

hey!

since the "in" and "active" jw's have their dating websites, what about us?

at the moment, i see myself, at a future date, feeling most comfortable with someone with a similar background, someone who understood the issues left over from the experience of being a jw.

Gringa

Wander - LOL -

I don't know if I'd want to date someone who would want to date me.

I would require a prenuptual that if they EVER returned to the cult, the marriage is AUTOMATICALLY terminated and I get everything. So, before I would even date an ex-JW, I would have to be absolutely SURE they were OUT...I mean it, too..... ROFL. I mean, I really MEAN IT!

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An update

by emilyblue in

some of you may remember me from last spring/summer.

i was the one who kept begging her jw boyfriend to take her back after every breakup.

i came back in here the other night to read some of my past posts and replies, basically to keep myself from calling him.. i moved back to my home state this summer and am teaching here and spending tons of time with my family.

Gringa

Emily!

Lot of good advice here.... he is an abuser - plain and simple.

Run, don't walk away - don't look back. You are way better off without him. Thank God you didn't marry him..... you could have been in for years of abuse.

Take care, sweetie!

Gringa

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I may lose my wife because of Disfellowshipping

by freedomfighter in

have only been out of the organisation for 2 months and the wounds still run deep.

particularly hard is the fact that my wife and 8 yr old son are now divided in our beliefs.

we cannot go out as a family with our old friends like we use to.

Gringa

Oh my GOD!!!! Talk about destroying families - over cigarettes!

This forum and the stories on it break my heart everyday....

Freedom, I am not sure if anyone can tell you what to do - hopefully some can tell you what they did. I have never been faced with a spouse in the borg, but I can tell you that my dad was DF for smoking, My mom turned him in, although he never smoked around us. I was about 12 or 13 years old.

It never got any better. He did get reinstated but the trust between them was lost forever. the guilt she laid on him was sickening. He finally left us (5 kids) and never came back. I don't blame him. I hope your wife is a better person than my mom was/is.

If you love her - do what you must but don't stay because of a fricking house. Lots of us walked away with nothing. NOTHING, no family, no friends, no home. But, somehow we survived and getting out was the best thing we ever did. You can rebuild. And your son will come around. She can't stop you from seeing him.

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Does paradise still seem attractive to you?

by Hiddenwindow in

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do you think paradise, as depicted by the watchtower, an everlasting life praising jehovah and playing with what we now know as wild animals, not to mention cultivating a piece of land, is really a desirable place?

bear in mind that there is no reference to science and that personal goals are non-existent..

Gringa

Think about it - FOREVER - forever....as in FOREVER !

It is just too long for me, I am afraid I will get bored after say, the first half million years or so...... But, hey! That is just me.

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When DA'd of DF'd ones give advice to DA...

by changeling in

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especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.

are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.

does misery want company?.

Gringa

I have been thinking of this thread and I have to say that I am ok with people being cowards. They gotta just save themselves, whatever it takes.

I still don't like people whinning and never getting off their butts to do something - what is that old saying? OH YEAH! Put up or shut up. Or was it - Sh*t or get off the pot? I don't know, I think either works.

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When DA'd of DF'd ones give advice to DA...

by changeling in

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friends

especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.

are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.

does misery want company?.

Gringa

LOL - I think I agreed with you since the beginning of this thread.......

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When DA'd of DF'd ones give advice to DA...

by changeling in

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friends

especially if they are the militant, bitter type...are they wanting you to undergo the hardships they've been through?.

are they secretly jealous of those who have faded and have kept their family together?.

does misery want company?.

Gringa

OK Dawg.....

Hell yeah, I was a coward for a LONG time! I was afraid of my mom. She is 80 years old now and a little old lady and she still scares me.

Finally when I was 24 and had been out of the cult for 6 years, I finally stood up to her. She was going on about why I wasn't committing to go to the memorial. I couldn't take it any longer - I said, I don't believe. It was a shock to her. She had been holding on all those years, thinking I had just strayed. That was the hardest conversation of my life.(it lastest 3 hours, but I won't bore you with the details)

Every conversation has gotten easier. But, she really doesn't want to hear what I have to say, she just wants to throw in little JW crap into any conversation that happens....we no longer have long talks because she hates to hear what I have to say and it works for me.Hell, she is an old lady - she has her meetings and her friends - good, keeps her busy so I don't have to.

I don't say anything now to my other relatives, not because I am afraid, but as I said before, WHY? I see no point. When my brother was dying of cancer he went back to the "truth". I was shocked but I figured "WHAT EVER". I don't care, he is dying. this is giving him hope and why say anything to him? Now, I say nothing because I don't have a reason. I left all of my JW friends behind, but if they show up - trust me, I will speak out.

I am no longer a coward........ but, I was for a lot of years. I read posts here and see a lot of cowards. People afraid to hurt their wives, parents, whatever, but truthfully, they are afraid for themselves. Well, fine, but I don't want to hear the constant complaining. Those just getting out are afraid and I accept that, but those that have been reading here and see the real facts and they still go back to the KH? MY GOD, I want to scream!

I don't comment on a lot of threads I read because, what's the point? If you can't grow a set of balls, how can I help you?

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Did You Stay In Because of the Fear?

by serotonin_wraith in

growing up amongst jws, i saw the core beliefs as a threat.

be a jw, or die horribly.

but no one i knew ever admitted this, it was all about 'loving jehovah'.

Gringa

Yeah - my mom "put the fear of God" into me...her words, not me.

I was afraid of her and of Jehovah.

How sad..... A loving God would not do this to anyone!!!! Love me and do what I say or I will kill you! I gave you free will but you damn well better use your free will to worship me OR I WILL KILL YOU!!!!

How on earth can anyone reconcile that?

It's sick, really, really sick.

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Did You Stay In Because of the Fear?

by serotonin_wraith in

growing up amongst jws, i saw the core beliefs as a threat.

be a jw, or die horribly.

but no one i knew ever admitted this, it was all about 'loving jehovah'.

Gringa

It is the carrot and the fear - - - what other reason is there?