Posts by Gringa

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When You Left The "Truth" Did You Have Any 2nd Thoughts?

by minimus in

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were you 100% sure that your decision was correct?.

Gringa

WTWizard Wrote:

I broke the situation down into its possibilities. There are four possibilities. (1) is that it is the truth, and I stay in long enough to survive. (2) is that it is the truth and I blow it off, and die. (3) is that it is not the truth and I waste my life in it. (4) is that it is not the truth and I get out of it.
Analyzing the possibilities, given the trends and the counsel I was given, I realized that case 1 was actually worse than case 2. If I live forever, it would be all men, and life would be totally stagnant. That, to me, would be worse than dying, especially if I must carry a part of the blame for its being all men. Among the other two possibilities, wasting my life in a lie is worse than getting out of it.

Exactly how I felt - I never looked back, no second thoughts. But, it did take me a long time to get over the guilt. Since I was 3rd generation and my entire mother's side of the fmaily were and are still in................. I was not only willing to give up my life, but my family for a little freedom and happiness.... and I have to say, it has been a pretty fun ride!

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I'm converting again.

by reneeisorym in

2 years ago i left jws.

i went to a baptist church because it was what my husband was.

i knew i wanted to go to church but which one i really didn't know yet.. two years later, i think i have made up my mind: presbyterian.. anyone have anything they want to share?

Gringa

Hi,

I am curious, this is not criticism, OK?

Why is it that you feel you need religion?

When I escaped from the grasp of the cult, I ran - I ran as fast as I could from any thing remotely religous. It felt to me that the folks used it as a crutch to get by in their sad life, that they NEED the hope of something bigger than what we have right here and now on this amazing earth.

So, what is the truth? Why do you feel the need for religion. Actually, I have never been able to ask any former JWs this question. So, thank you for the opportunity.

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Does any real learning take place at the Kingdom Hall?

by truthseeker in

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prearranged comments, scripted answers, word-for-word answers from the paragraph,.

no outside material allowed, short comments.... .

does anyone really learn anything at the hall?

Gringa

Oh, and I forgot - facing certain death for my evil sins in the fall of 1975, the KH and the JW also taught me not to fear death - AT ALL.

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Does any real learning take place at the Kingdom Hall?

by truthseeker in

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prearranged comments, scripted answers, word-for-word answers from the paragraph,.

no outside material allowed, short comments.... .

does anyone really learn anything at the hall?

Gringa

Ditto Restrangled.

I also learn how to be a really good liar as a teenager - leading my double life. I learned how to act totally straight around my mother when I was high as a kite. I learned how to iron the Sunday meeting clothes while tripping on LSD.

I still zone out , even after 30+ years out of there, when I am bored and people don't even know it, they think I am in to what is happening....

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Comments You Won't Hear at the WT Study 11/25 FEATURING MINIMUS

by V in

here are the fully formatted watchtower comments for the week ending 25 november.

despite the trampling of wt comments last week, this feature will go unabated.

my appreciation to minimus for his commentary, see his original post here.

Gringa

Ya have to admit, watching soaps is pretty worthless....

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My Very First Post

by leaving-jws in

i have been so reluctant to post basically because i am so torn about exposing my personal life.

i happen to come across this website by mistake about 6 months ago.

i agreed with your opinions of the jws view on higher education and independent thinking that i found on this website.

Gringa

Hi! I have nothing to add to the great posts...just wanted to greet you!!!!

Gringa

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Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

by Gringa in

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i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

got out fairly young.

Gringa

Junction Guy,

See that's the thing. He told me about a forum where there were exJW and said he was learning a lot about the "new light", gathering stuff to try and show our mom the errors of her religion. He kept me up-to-date on things like the changes in rules on blood, smoking, etc. from things he learned on the forum.

BUT, what I don't know is if he ever posted in the forums. The search is vast... ugh!

He may have talked about being asked to donate a kidney to our brother, he might have talked about childhood sexual abuse, he may have discussed the blood issues, he may have discussed sexuality. He may have discussed our dad leaving us and the religion, alone to an abusive mother. He may have discuss how our mom was the worst of the worst and even the other witnesses felt sorry for us....I just don't know. Trying to give you hints in case you ever chatted with him. Lee - Colorado, if that jogs any memories.

Again, thanks for everyone's welcome and help.

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Hello! Time to introduce myself.....

by Gringa in

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i have been reading the forum the past couple of days, actually i am finding it hard to pull myself away.

i stumbled upon it by accident - searching some thing lead to another and another and here i am.. 3rd generation ex-jw here.

got out fairly young.

Gringa

Oh yeah! I visited it once and Lake Chapala & Ajijic are full of Gringos and Canadians. Not my cup of tea, but it is beautiful. It is in the mountains outside of Guadalajara. The temperature is near perfect.

There are lots of Gringos living all over Mexico, and Canadians and Europeans and Australians. My city has people living here from all over the world. My building houses 11 condominiums and here is the breakdown:

2 Canadians, 1 Italian, 1 Venezulan, 2 Mexicans, 4 Americans and a couple from Iran..... interesting to say the least. I love the diversity here. There is a huge population here from Holland - go figure...... why? I have no clue!

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What does freedom from the Watchtower mean to you?

by AK - Jeff in

thoughts?

Gringa

NO MORE F*CKING BORING< HOT< STUFFY< LONG< MEETINGS AND BIBLE STUDIES....NO MORE DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE......NO MORE GUILT

That's all.......

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SIGH... Mother troubles again...

by Elyse867 in

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so i opened up my laptop last night, to check my email and such, and my mom had obviously just checked hers... she was still logged on, which has never happened before.

i felt like i needed to look in her emails, which is not something i would normally do, as i hold privacy as something sacred.

as some of you know, my mom lives with my hubby, me, and my kids.

Gringa

Wow - you could have been writing my story!!! Only my mom told my brother that I am satan.... now that hurt!!!! LOL

I had to move on, cut my mom out, She was too destructive to me personally and my kids. Do I love my mom? Of course. Does she love me? I really don't know.

I wrote her off 25 years ago. Yes, we do still have limited contact and now that she is 80 we are doing better then ever before, but she never stops hurting me. Why, only yesterday I talked to her for about a hour on the phone and she hurt me deeply YET AGAIN. I will never live up to her expectations, and I am not sure why I keep letting her hurt me, but I do. Just not that often and she doesn't hurt my kids because not one of them will have a thing to do with her.

It's sad, but my, my life is better without all that hatefilled crap in it.