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  Anti-College/Pro-Pioneering Convention Interviews

  by Rohag in

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  2. beliefs

  here's the text of interviews from the friday afternoon "young people - walk by holy spirit in the congregation" presentation at a 2008 jehovah's witness district convention.

  this transcription approximately covers the second half of the presentation.

  i've omitted names and locations to preserve individuals' privacy.

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  Robert7

  Yuck. Reading this I can just hear the canned responses on stage now... what a bunch of propaganda...
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  do you love/like/tolerate/hate.... your job??

  by oompa in

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  i want to find something i love....so i will never have to work another day in my life.....maybe mark twain said that....not sure...but a good idea.................oompa

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  Robert7

  I very much like my job in technical sales... Get to do a lot of differnt tasks, visit some very cool places, and it pays quite well. I couldn't imagine a better job for myself.
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  cheating on you Feild service time

  by Iwonder17 in

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  i'm curious how many people do this and what is the most that you ever wrote down that you didn't do?.

  my highest was 12 when i only went out 1 hour .

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  Robert7

  I always rounded up. I would count a Saturday always as 2 hours, even though we were out maybe 1/2 hour, and the rest was driving and breaks. And I would add 2 hours of time for 'studying with my kids' even though I didn't. Just brought them to meetings.
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  'Paradise Earth' makes absolutely no sense!

  by navytownroger in

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  2. beliefs

  the jw idea of 'paradise earth' seems to be full of holes.

  will babies of baptized jws also be in the new system?

  if not, how could the child's parents consider it 'paradise' without their children?

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  Robert7

  There were SO many holes in the stories. When I brought any up, the typical answer was "Just make it there, and you can worry about the details then"
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  what is the best jwd thing to happen to you?...from another jwder

  by oompa in

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  how good can it get here folks?...........many here care for each other....we need each other...but how much?.......how far??.....oompa.

  btw...thanks all...many have made me laugh...and made me cry...and made me sober...(and some made me hor.ey).

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  Robert7

  Oh... and the cottage...
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  what is the best jwd thing to happen to you?...from another jwder

  by oompa in

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  how good can it get here folks?...........many here care for each other....we need each other...but how much?.......how far??.....oompa.

  btw...thanks all...many have made me laugh...and made me cry...and made me sober...(and some made me hor.ey).

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  Robert7

  I wouldn't call it the best thing... but a fun thing... Got to shoot a gun at Oompa's house! (yes, that's really me at Oompa's house)

  
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  The most inappropriate remarks from Jehovahs Witnesses

  by jambon1 in

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  i have a few which still either anger me, make me sad or just make me grateful that i am no longer one of them.

  1 - "well, everyone is going to die anyway, so if it at armageddon then ce la vie" 2 - "the disater today at the world trade centre is sad, but exciting" 3 - (an elder) "when armageddon happens, i want to be at a window, watching it all".

  sick, sick, sick!

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  Robert7

  My wife (newlightforyou) was grieving about a friend of hers who died in a motorcycle accident. He was DF'd at the time. One sister 'comforted' her and said, "Well, he was already dead in Jehovah's eyes".

  Another time, a sister told us about her mother's recent death. She said "she never was a Witness, so it's ok". How cold, wrote off her mom because she was never a Witness.
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  What's the most ridiculous thing that was ever said to you personally?

  by iamthewolf5562 in

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  were you told that you werent "spiritually mature"?

  you were "acting worldly"?

  you need to "rethink your association"?.

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  Robert7

  "Everything said on stage comes directly from Jehovah"

  And Mr. iamthewolf, it was your mom that said this, seriously! All I could think when I heard this, even a few years ago when I was 'in', was"WTF??"
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  I've been studying JW for 6 months. Please help..

  by fb130 in

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  2. friends

  i'm still trying 2 figure out if this is a pro or anti jw forum but here goes..

  i started studying jw 6 months ago & i do feel i'm growing.

  i think at the rate things are going i'll b babtised in another 6 months.

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  Robert7

  Here are a few great questions to ask your study conductor:

  1) Name 3 things you dislike about the organization, or being a JW. (If anyone says there are none, they are covering something up)

  2) Have you ever had a discussion with any former members as to why they left? How do you (the student) have access to former members? You should ask to speak to some former members to understand their perspective of the organization.

  These are appropriate before joining ANY organization, even obviously a job. It's good to ask about any negative things, and also very good to speak to former employees for a view into the organization. I've done this before while interviewing at a company. There is also nothing 'bad' abuot asking these, and you -absolutely should- get reasonable responses.

  Don't accept a fluff answer, and don't allow the conductor to just blow them off. If he/she refuses to answer these, then this is a red flag. What are they hiding? No organization is perfect, and it is your right to know the reality of it all before you join.
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  The elders came last night and i stood my NEW ground!!! be proud!

  by New light for you in

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  2. friends

  so yes, the brothers came for "encouragement" and of course, my husband is out of town on business... so it was me and the kids.. so i did let them in, i like these brothers...these are some things we discussed.... 1. i went over how that stupid "obey" email got all this started, got me to divulge to my girlfriend how i was feeling about the whole religion.

  about how at the end of the call she said that she can't associate with me anymore, and then right after that call/ 30seconds later while i'm crying a pioneer called and asked "do you consider yourself one of jeh witnesses anymore??

  " and i thought that was crazy for someone to try to trap me when i was sitting crying on the phone, upset with the last call... i told them that for all purposes i am already dfed since noone will talk to me anymore, and only one friend called to see what happened, everyone else just listened to the gossip of whatever spread, and wrote me off even though i'm technically in good standing.

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  Robert7

  i told him everything i did, telling the elders off ... and his response? 'THATS HOT!!"

  Yes, that's what I said. And if I wasn't 1000 miles away on business, I would have congratulated her appropriately...