surprising myself .
by actually putting a posting here.. i was pretty much born and raised a jdub.
all but stopped going about two years ago.
Welcome spaz-nik! I know you'll enjoy it out here. Hopefully you can join us in 'live chat' sometime. It's our little playroom.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Minnesota division)
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what did you find the most boring book to read in the bible?.
its a hard choice as there's so many to choose from but i have to go with psalms.flipping nora it take for ever to read, is written in some incomprehensible way, and is about nothing!
I agree with whoever said "Chronicles". You can also add Deuteronomy. Long lists of antiquated laws. Yawn. How beneficial!!
I actually enjoyed reading the book of Psalms, especially when I was feeling a bit down. And I also enjoyed the satiric wit that can be found in some of the Proverbs, and the eroticism of Song of Solomon. (I have put my clothes off...how can I put them back on? etc.)
Scully, you said you don't know why some of the minor prophets are included....C'mon, don't you know all scripture is inspired of God and beneficial??? (2 Tim. 3:16) How dare you... never mind, LOL. Perhaps some of the minor prophets just wanted to see their names in the Holy Book.
You want a real head-scratcher -- how 'bout the book of Joel? They cannot even pinpoint the era in which it was written, nor whom exactly he is prophesying against!! It comes across like a generic "Jehovah has enemies --- he will destroy!!" type of book.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
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april 3rd is ainsley's birthday.
ainsley is my teddy bear, and he's three years old!.
happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear ainsley, happy birthday to you.. for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow, for he's a jolly good fellow, and so says me!
Can you post a pic of the b-day party? Would love to see how much fun this tyke is having. Three is a great age. My little girl just turned three in December. She was overwhelmed by her birthday party, which was her very first one! She keeps asking me for another one, LOL.
Best wishes to you and to Ainsley.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
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how they believe it is supposed to work .
[li] the present annointed governing body members shall soon pass away and receive their heavenly reward, not awaiting a resurrection.. [li] having run the fine "race" to the finish, they shall effectively pass "go" and collect their proverbial $200, to borrow a metaphor from the milton bradley game.. [li] upon their physical deaths they expect to enjoy an instant transfer of consciousness into glorious spirit bodies in heaven.. [li] not going to the proverbial monopoly "jail" upon their deaths (until awakening to a resurrection like the rest of sinful mankind), they expect to pass "jail" and go directly to a heavenly "park place" filled with riches and powers beyond earthly comprehension.. [li] these men who proclaimed themselves as part of the collective "faithful and discreet slave class" here on earth expect to enter heaven to reign over mankind as "priests" next to jesus christ, who is king over the earth, for a thousand years.. how it might actually work.
[li] the present men on the watchtower society's governing body shall soon die of natural age related causes.. [li] each one suddenly finds himself hovering over and looking down on his frail aged body in shock and puzzlement, as younger men scurry about his body.
[li] They gasp.
[li] They die.
[li] The next generation changes just enough of their policies to keep the JW's a viable organization.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
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love like you don't need the money, dance like everybody is watching, and work like you've never been hurt.
... and here I thought this would be a thread about the music CREED.
Can you take me higher?
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
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well at 29 years old, after a lifelong relationship/belief in/association with a higher power i called god, here i am very close to taking an athiestic or agnostic approach to the rest of my life.
it really hit me the other day although my doubts have been there but i just have been forcing myself to ignore them because i was afraid to give up that religious part of me because its all that i have ever been and i was afraid of the unknown.
but i realized after getting through another one of those weeks from hell that it makes no difference how much i pray or how much i believe.
I have to echo what Crownboy said, about trying to be "a better Christian" after deciding not to go back to Jehovah's Witnesses.
I got going with my Bible reading, and was searching for a reasonable alternative group of people/way of worship/place to belong.
That was a phase. Then I started to read more of the posts out here, and the bad association (just kidding) made me think about other alternative ways of thinking, including agnosticism and atheism.
It's been a path to where I am now... not atheist, but not a worshipper either. It didn't happen overnight. (This may explain things a little more clearly to the poster named Double Edge.)
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i really miss the chesse danish's and the choclote pudding, and hoggie sandwichs, and people spilling their cokes behind me and it flowing into my kids blankets.. it was not comendable for the gb to do away with our food, dam them all them anyway, hell they were making good money on our eating their food, only a few of the items tasted any good, the rest tasted like goat shit.
tin man
LOL Dino -- you had to go to these conventions to know what you mean!!
At conventions back in the 80's here, they used to wrap the chicken in bread, so that the bread could absorb the grease coming out of the chicken. Not kidding. Yum, yum.
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well at 29 years old, after a lifelong relationship/belief in/association with a higher power i called god, here i am very close to taking an athiestic or agnostic approach to the rest of my life.
it really hit me the other day although my doubts have been there but i just have been forcing myself to ignore them because i was afraid to give up that religious part of me because its all that i have ever been and i was afraid of the unknown.
but i realized after getting through another one of those weeks from hell that it makes no difference how much i pray or how much i believe.
Hey Flower,
Since it's one day PAST April 1st, I assume you're very serious! Just one question, what are the folks over at the "exjwinwestva" board going to think? They are going to tell you that if you show more faith, then God/Jesus/whoever will reveal himself to you!
I'm in the camp that believes that there is one who initially formed us, but has kind of left us alone to deal with life on our own. So if that is the case, we can be grateful to be alive, but don't have to depend on some higher power to help us make decisions, etc.
Just my $.02.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Minnesota division)
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firstly, before i say why i'm doomed to be sad, i'd like to give you the good news : i've got the all clear which means that my malignant melanoma skin cancer is all gone!
the surgery worked, so i dont need any more treatment!
so why am i doomed to be sad?
Sirona,
My JW elder / dad said the same thing to me: "You'll be happier if you came back to the truth." That comment came out of the blue in our most recent conversation (which was last fall).
I was thinking, how arrogant! And how presumptious, for I had given no indication of sadness during the earlier part of the conversation.
I guess all JW parents run off the same program.
Congrats on beating the melanoma, Sirona!! That is terrific.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
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this quote is from someone who lurks on jwd!
sorry for the long email, but this has been therapeutic and i just may post this on the db one day.
(lol) but i have to get up the nerve, because those people can be a little mean at times.
Yeah for Tera and Bitter Mango!
Differences being settled, good discussions being had -- THIS is how I hope we are perceived.
-J.R., member, UADNA-MN
(Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America - Minnesota division)
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