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  Randy Watters -- WT admits 144,000 may not be the limit

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i, along with many others, received our latest freeminds email.

  i was shocked at the following underlined statement.. the second thing they are emphasizing is that those who claim to be of the "anointed" (now that they have admitted the number may not be limited to 144,000) not only have no say into what goes into the watchtower magazine, and have no special knowledge or place in jehovah's organization, so don't look to them for answers.

  the governing body is the faithful and discreet slave as far as the jws are to be concerned.

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  New darkness must be arriving from the WT soon

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE THIS!!!!!.....

  by Nick! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi xxxx,.

  to tell you the truth, i feel very deceived from the way the organization has been acting in the last years.. .

  ----- original message ----- from: xxxxxsent: wednesday, august 18, 2010 1:04 amsubject: fw: there are no words to describe this!!!!!......

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  Welcome LaGere!

  Nice post Nick! :)

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  THE WITCHTOWER 10/2010: Who Are God's Executional Forces Today?

  by processor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new issue of the witchtower is available for download now.. .

  what does the future hold for the dog class?

  who are the "dogs" that are shepherding the "other sheep"?.

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  Are Foreign Languages for Christians? Or are they of pagan origin?

  Gotta be my favourite article processor

  Gonna make a donation

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  Top 10 reasons why JWs don't have the truth - please contribute

  by oldlightnewshite in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought it would be an interesting exercise to ask everybody on here what their 'top 10 reasons why jws don't have the truth' actually were.

  maybe we can see some correlating views/patterns/ideas that may help us de-programme the newbies that come on this site.

  if eventually most people have an outstanding gripe/concern it'll help everybody understand the ex-jw mindset a little better.

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  coffee_black Fernando,

  Great post... and and a hearty Welcome!!!!!!

  Coffee

  Welcome Fernando!

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  Rich Man and Lazarus

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have never understood the watchtower's explanation of the rich man and lazarus story jesus told in luke 16. of course, they don't believe jesus is talking about what happens in an "afterlife" after people die.. but from the watchtower's point of view:.

  1. who are the five brothers?.

  2. why can't lazarus go witness to them?

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  Vanderhoven7 What do you believe was the point of the transfiguration? What did this vision represent or picture?

  Matthew 17:2-3 (New International Version)

  2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.

  Revelation 22:1-5 (New International Version)

  1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

  John 14:2 (New International Version)

  2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

  Luke 23:43 (New International Version)

  43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

  Matthew 22:32 (New International Version)

  32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  were are we really going when we die!

  by arimatthewdavies in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i tried this one before but my browser was broken.

  come let us go up into heaven let us build our thrones their let us become like the most high!

  these are satans words they got him and his demons kicked out off heaven!

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  When we die, we decompose. End of story. Enjoy what you are sure that you have.

  Agreed.

  Ecclesiastes 12:7 (New International Version)

  7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from,
  and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

  One's spirit goes to God

  Hebrews 9:27 (New International Version)

  27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  Is there 'independent' thinking going on in this congregation?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told that a congregation has started taking donations for those who are struggling in this time.

  they said that they mentioned how catholics, etc, have salvation army and take up donations and help the poor, but jw's don't have anything like that.

  i was wondering if all congregations are starting this, or one is realizing that they haven't been in harmony with the early christians.

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  They are just following the bible

  Acts 4:34 (New International Version)

  34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales

  I am sure the elders will stamp it out before it gets out of hand

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  Believing JW's , do you agree with anything Debator says ?

  by wobble in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask because i threw down the challenge on another thread that if any agreed with debator/reniaa's apologetics in any area would they please post so that we can see where jw's are correct in their teachings.. nobody supported deb/ren's points.. i do not ask for a list of "correct" jw teachings, just where is deb/ren's correct presentation of wt/jw beliefs that stand scrutiny and are truth.. if there are none then we do not need to engage in any kind of talk with deb/ren..

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  However, without feedback from people that the debates are actually helping them, I wonder if I am just having a fruitless conversation with a magazine published in Brooklyn.

  You are, I have the same conversations for too long with too many.

  Some times one needs to follow Paul's example

  Acts 19:9 (English Standard Version)

  9 But when some became stubborn and continued in unbelief, speaking evil of the Way before the congregation, he withdrew from them and took the disciples with him, reasoning daily in the hall of Tyrannus.

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  The Journey to My First Post

  by ReallyTrulyAthena in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello, jwn!.

  like other newbies, im a long time lurker, first-time poster.

  recently, i created a profile, but then hesitated on submitting my first post.

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  Welcome ReallyTrulyAthena!

  Blessings,

  Stephen
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  Jehovah - The Hearer of Prayer?

  by Had To Go in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey!

  i made my intro post this past weekend and briefly mentioned my dilemma.

  here is a link in case you are interested or need to refresh your memory.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/199811/1/introduction-warning-its-complicated.

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  Jesus should know how to pray, no name required.

  Matthew 6:9 (New International Version)

  9 "This, then, is how you should pray:
  " 'Our Father in heaven,
  hallowed be your name,

  Luke 11:1-2 (New International Version)

  Jesus' Teaching on Prayer

  1 One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said to him, "Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples."

  2 He said to them, "When you pray, say:
  " 'Father, [ a ]
  hallowed be your name,
  your kingdom come. [ b ]

  Footnotes:

  1. Luke 11:2 Some manuscripts Our Father in heaven
  2. Luke 11:2 Some manuscripts come. May your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

  Mark 14:36 (New International Version)

  36 "Abba, [a] Father," he said, "everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."

  Footnotes:

  1. Mark 14:36 Aramaic for Father

  Romans 8:15 (New International Version)

  15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. [a] And by him we cry, "Abba, [b] Father."

  Footnotes:

  1. Romans 8:15 Or adoption
  2. Romans 8:15 Aramaic for Father

  Galatians 3:26 (New International Version)

  26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

  Galatians 4:6 (New International Version)

  6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, [a] Father."

  Footnotes:

  1. Galatians 4:6 Aramaic for Father

  Galatians 4:6 (New International Version)

  6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, [a] Father."

  Footnotes:

  1. Galatians 4:6 Aramaic for Father

  A fellow sibling,

  Stephen