Hello again Bethel,
Hope you are well.
Just thought you ought to know there are some serious errors in the New World Translation.
If you PM me I will send over the corrections :)
Love In Christ,
Stephen
Posts by Chalam
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38IF BETHEL MONITORS this board what are they saying
by minimus init's been said many times that bethel monitors this board.
if they do, what do you think they're thinking?
do you think this board could cause a staunch bethelite to question things?
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Chalam
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Universal Issue of Sovereignty Does NOT Exist....Proof......
by oompa inwe are taught that the $hit mankind has endured for thousands of years is because satan said something that could be construed to be bad about god, and so god said...."let's let mankind see if they are better off following satan and leading themselves, or following me.
" now thousands of years later, this universal issue is still not settled...after all...the angles and demons are waiting with baited breath for the end result.. do you think that just because you were taught since youth that this "universal sovereignty issue" is real, it is?
i have some real good biblical reasons this is not even an issue.............................................oompa.
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Chalam
I agree-anyone that builds a belief on one part of the Bible in isolation is on very dangerous ground.
You might end up baptising the dead like the Mormons or believing the dead know nothing like the JWs.
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Anyone know what the WT society is worth? and what do they do with it all?
by cognac injust curious
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Chalam
Well He is loaded-He made everything after all.
John 1 (New International Version)
The Word Became Flesh
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.
3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Here's how He will blow His cash
Matthew 22
The Parable of the Wedding Banquet
1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.
4"Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.'
5"But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.
8"Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' 10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
Make sure you are at the banquet! It's gonna be a feast :)
All the best,
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Universal Issue of Sovereignty Does NOT Exist....Proof......
by oompa inwe are taught that the $hit mankind has endured for thousands of years is because satan said something that could be construed to be bad about god, and so god said...."let's let mankind see if they are better off following satan and leading themselves, or following me.
" now thousands of years later, this universal issue is still not settled...after all...the angles and demons are waiting with baited breath for the end result.. do you think that just because you were taught since youth that this "universal sovereignty issue" is real, it is?
i have some real good biblical reasons this is not even an issue.............................................oompa.
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Chalam
Hi oompa,
Once again that is another total WTO falsehood. We are in the $hit because of this
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=3&version=31
Note the $hit is clearly described at the end.
This is the way out of the $hit
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=52&chapter=5&version=31&context=chapter
Or same way out here
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&chapter=15&version=31&context=chapter
Hope that helps,
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Birthdays, Christmas, New Year and more!
by Chalam ini just found another verse on this-the title of the section is perfect!
colossians 2 (new international version) .
freedom from human regulations through life with christ .
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Chalam
"That's kind of the funny point."
No fun for poor old JWs though :(
Even Jesus and his disciples like a party
John 2 (New International Version)
John 2
Jesus Changes Water to Wine
1On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there, 2and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no more wine."
4"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied, "My time has not yet come."
5His mother said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you."
6Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons.[a]
7Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.
8Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."
They did so, 9and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew. Then he called the bridegroom aside 10and said, "Everyone brings out the choice wine first and then the cheaper wine after the guests have had too much to drink; but you have saved the best till now."
11This, the first of his miraculous signs, Jesus performed in Cana of Galilee. He thus revealed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him.
Make sure you put your faith in Him too and not the WTO!
All the best,
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Another serious WTO blunder
by Chalam inoff the back of the excellent "letter of disassociation" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/150963/1.ashx i was checking out a couple of bits of the bible.
romans 8:14-16 (new international version) .
14 because those who are led by the spirit of god are sons of god.
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Chalam
Was that the NWT?
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Anyone know what the WT society is worth? and what do they do with it all?
by cognac injust curious
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Chalam
Matthew 6 (New International Version)
Treasures in Heaven
19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Luke 16 (New International Version)
The Parable of the Shrewd Manager
10"Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much. 11So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? 12And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else's property, who will give you property of your own?
13"No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
Regards,
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Another serious WTO blunder
by Chalam inoff the back of the excellent "letter of disassociation" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/150963/1.ashx i was checking out a couple of bits of the bible.
romans 8:14-16 (new international version) .
14 because those who are led by the spirit of god are sons of god.
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Chalam
Hi R.Crusoe,
Well don't forget the Bible is the biggest selling book of all time so no doubt that is not without reason :)
There are plenty of lottery winners who have read the Bible.
The winning numbers 777 :)
666 is a losing combination every time :(
The key to getting the right numbers is Jesus.
Ask Him and he will help you fill in your lottery card.
All the best,
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Birthdays, Christmas, New Year and more!
by Chalam ini just found another verse on this-the title of the section is perfect!
colossians 2 (new international version) .
freedom from human regulations through life with christ .
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Chalam
So the WTO agree with Paul that no-one should be judged who wants to attend a party or festival.
Cool-I need to tell my JW friends!
Party on dudes :)
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Another serious WTO blunder
by Chalam inoff the back of the excellent "letter of disassociation" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/150963/1.ashx i was checking out a couple of bits of the bible.
romans 8:14-16 (new international version) .
14 because those who are led by the spirit of god are sons of god.
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Chalam
Hi,
Off the back of the excellent "Letter of Disassociation" http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/150963/1.ashx I was checking out a couple of bits of the Bible.
Romans 8:14-16 (New International Version)
14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship.[a] And by him we cry, "Abba,[b] Father." 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
Galatians 4:6-7 (New International Version)
6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba,[a] Father." 7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.
Paul says basically the same thing in each. However, in one he writes "Spirit of God" and in the other "Spirit if his Son".
So unless you believe there are two spirits which do the same thing (unlikely) then what does that mean?
Obviously, The Spirit of God IS the Spirit Of Jesus, that Jesus IS God and God IS Jesus.
Notice also the Spirit is referred to as "him" and "who", certainly not an 'active force' thing.
Once again we have the Trinity in the Bible, the Father, the Son and the Spirit, three but one in the same.
I checked the NWT and it even agrees (for the time being until they tamper with this as well).
Regards,
Stephen