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  The Power of Prayer......Do you believe in it?

  by confuzzled777 in

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  my sil has been fighting stage iv leiomyosarcoma (which in incurable) for over 2 years now.

  there have been quite a few ups and downs in her treatments and her prognosis along with way.

  she is a full time pioneer and has been since shortly after her diagnosis.

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  Chalam

  The Power of Prayer......Do you believe in it?

  Of course, what's the point otherwise?

  Does the Power of Prayer really exist?

  Yes, sure, watch this Charles Vance - Healing

  Why would one person's prayers be answered to save a loved one and another one's not?

  First and formost one needs the right Jesus, not a counterfeit.

  John 14:6 (New International Version, ©2010)

  6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

  Isaiah 53:2-5 (New International Version, ©2010)

  2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
  and like a root out of dry ground.
  He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
  nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
  3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
  a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
  Like one from whom people hide their faces
  he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

  4 Surely he took up our pain
  and bore our suffering,
  yet we considered him punished by God,
  stricken by him, and afflicted.
  5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
  he was crushed for our iniquities;
  the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
  and by his wounds we are healed.

  Acts 3:16 (New International Version, ©2010)

  16 By faith in the name of Jesus, this man whom you see and know was made strong. It is Jesus’ name and the faith that comes through him that has completely healed him, as you can all see.

  Acts 4:10 (New International Version, ©2010)

  10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  I just finished Crisis of Conscience today....

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  disclaimer:.

  i really hate to hijack this thread, but i wasted my one 24hr post on that window washing thread last night.

  i don't think i'll have an opportunity to post this up here if i wait, and would like to get it done before the weekend.

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  No problems Nobleheart :)

  Just keep reading the scriptures. Let the Holy Spirit be your guide! He will point out everything you need to know John 14

  Ephesians 4:4-6 (New International Version, ©2010)

  4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

  There is ONE hope, JWs think they have two.

  There is ONE Lord, JWs think they have two, "Jehovah" and "Jesus".

  There is ONE God and Father, the Father and Jesus, the "Everlasting Father" who are one. JWs think they are two.

  There is ONE who is over all and through all and in all, the Father and Jesus who are one God, one Creator and one Spirit. JWs think they are two.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  Difficult Scriptures for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by restoretherepublic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been out of the jw's for about 18 yrs.

  of course i'm still interested in what's happening (news, changes, etc) with the religion, but i am very far removed from it and busy living my life.

  i've been going to a non-denomination type church and this particular church's format is to go through the bible in a consecutive manner, scripture by scripture.. in doing so, i always come across scripture and wonder how the jw mindset can explain away or mentally accept the material.. i understand that much can be lost in the new world translation and jw's never touch upon some scriptures.. recently, at church, we have been going through colossians.

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  You can lead a horse to water...

  Romans 10:9-13 (New International Version, ©2010)

  9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” [ a ] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” [ b ]

  Footnotes:

  1. Romans 10:11 Isaiah 28:16 (see Septuagint)
  2. Romans 10:13 Joel 2:32

  Blessings in Christ, Stephen
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  I just finished Crisis of Conscience today....

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  disclaimer:.

  i really hate to hijack this thread, but i wasted my one 24hr post on that window washing thread last night.

  i don't think i'll have an opportunity to post this up here if i wait, and would like to get it done before the weekend.

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  "Heaven" and "paradise" are one and the same. See here

  2 Corinthians 12:2-4 (New International Version, ©2010)

  2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.

  Paradise is the garden, just as it was

  Genesis 2:9 (New International Version, ©2010)

  9 The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

  Is and will be

  Revelation 2:7 (New International Version, ©2010)

  7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

  Revelation 22:1-2 (New International Version, ©2010)

  Eden Restored

  1 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations.

  The city comes down from "out of heaven" Revelation 21:2, Revelation 21:10 and the restoration is complete.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  I just finished Crisis of Conscience today....

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  disclaimer:.

  i really hate to hijack this thread, but i wasted my one 24hr post on that window washing thread last night.

  i don't think i'll have an opportunity to post this up here if i wait, and would like to get it done before the weekend.

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  2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (New International Version, ©2010)

  The Man of Lawlessness

  1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

  Matthew 24:26-27 (New International Version, ©2010)

  26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

  Acts 1:9-11 (New International Version, ©2010)

  9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

  10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

  Revelation 1:7-8 (New International Version, ©2010)

  7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
  and “every eye will see him,
  even those who pierced him”;
  and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
  So shall it be! Amen.

  8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  Difficult Scriptures for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by restoretherepublic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been out of the jw's for about 18 yrs.

  of course i'm still interested in what's happening (news, changes, etc) with the religion, but i am very far removed from it and busy living my life.

  i've been going to a non-denomination type church and this particular church's format is to go through the bible in a consecutive manner, scripture by scripture.. in doing so, i always come across scripture and wonder how the jw mindset can explain away or mentally accept the material.. i understand that much can be lost in the new world translation and jw's never touch upon some scriptures.. recently, at church, we have been going through colossians.

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  Amen hasmat and welcome!

  Romans 10:9 (New International Version, ©2010)

  9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  Difficult Scriptures for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by restoretherepublic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been out of the jw's for about 18 yrs.

  of course i'm still interested in what's happening (news, changes, etc) with the religion, but i am very far removed from it and busy living my life.

  i've been going to a non-denomination type church and this particular church's format is to go through the bible in a consecutive manner, scripture by scripture.. in doing so, i always come across scripture and wonder how the jw mindset can explain away or mentally accept the material.. i understand that much can be lost in the new world translation and jw's never touch upon some scriptures.. recently, at church, we have been going through colossians.

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  Welcome restoretherepublic!

  Some great examples :)

  The more I read the bible, the more I find verses which refute the WT doctrine directly.

  Or course, the bible can only be understood with the Holy Spirit. The WT deny Him at every opportunity and teach their sheep to do the same.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  Why 144,000 ?

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if god can read our hearts, why does he need an additional 144,000 creatures in heaven along with the already existing myriads of angels, to assist jesus in separating the sheep from the goats?

  is there any scriptural answer for this that you know of?.

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  We know they cant be literal Jews since Jesus told them 'your house is abandoned to you' and subsequently the good news was opened up to the Gentiles/Nations...from which to bring a kingdom of priests...

  Loz x

  snowbird A careful reading of Romans chapters 9-11 should disabuse your mind of that notion, Loz.

  Syl

  Indeed!

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  JC question: Do you accept the FDS as God's organization?

  by MrMonroe in

  1. watchtower
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  my wife and i had stopped going to meetings in april; in december of that year we travelled interstate and stayed with the witness couple who had "brought me into the truth".

  we had already told them we'd quit meetings and there was a certain tension in the air for the first couple of days until sunday morning, when, over a breakfast that eventually lasted several hours, they began to interrogate us about why we had left.

  had we been stumbled?

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  This is the DF answer.

  John 20:28 (New International Version, ©2010)

  28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen
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  I just finished Crisis of Conscience today....

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  disclaimer:.

  i really hate to hijack this thread, but i wasted my one 24hr post on that window washing thread last night.

  i don't think i'll have an opportunity to post this up here if i wait, and would like to get it done before the weekend.

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  Chalam

  Welcome dontplaceliterature!

  Maybe I misunderstood him, but it seems to me that Raymond Franz believes that everyone who gets salvation will experience it by means of a Heavenly Ressurection. I just don't think this adds up, wth regard to the Scriptures I am familiar with. Could it be that there is a disconnect in the translation/understanding of the term Paradise versus that of Heaven?

  I have no desire at all to live in Heaven. The Scriptures specifically say that God didn't form The Earth "simply for nothing," but rather to be "inhabited." -- Isaiah 45:18

  Common sense would tell me that the Earth is not a "Heavenly Springboard" or "Heavinly Testing Station." While I do agree that the number 144,000 mentioned in Revelation is likely/possibly figurative, I just don't see the logic in reasoning that everyone who gains salvation goes to heaven.

  Looking forward to your comments.....

  All Christians go to heaven upon death. Here are some verses on the matter

  Ephesians 4:4-6 (New International Version, ©2010)

  4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

  2 Corinthians 5:1-10 (New International Version, ©2010)

  Awaiting the New Body

  1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

  6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. 7 For we live by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

  Luke 23:42-43 (New International Version, ©2010)

  42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

  43 Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

  The heavenly dwelling comes to earth after the final "white throne" judgement in Revelation 20.

  Revelation 21:2-3 (New International Version, ©2010)

  2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.

  God will live on earth with His people, just as He planned back in Genesis.

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen