The thing is, I don't know you. I don't know if you were one of the elders who said I was partly to blame for the severe abuse I went through. I don't know if you were that elder who said if I had lived in a different time period I would have bee atoned to death due to committing fornication. I don't know if you were the elder who did much worse things then what I just mentioned. Honestly, ice never gotten an apology and the closest thing I've gotten to it is you apologizing. I've held a heavy weight in my heart towards elders. Do I forgive you? No. That's my honest answer. My grudge is so deep and it was the one promise I made to myself when I was 12 years old. Not to forgive because once you forgive you open your heart to once again go through such massive pain that you can't bare to be within your own skin. Thank you for opening the door to the start of the process of forgiveness. Nobody has ever apologized so it never occurred to me to try. Thank you.
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46Please accept my apology for being an elder and participating in Judicial Committees
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Shouldn't the 1,000 yr reign have already started in 1914?
by cognac ini asked my dad that years ago and he said that it wouldn't start until the new system comes.
does this not make sense to anybody else?
i thought it would have started when jesus came back whicj was supposedly in 1914... .
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cognac
To JW's there is the Presence (parasoia) which began in 1914 when (according to JW doctrine) Jesus gave Satan the boot, and began to "rule in the midst of his enemies" (kind of have to ignore that whole "rule" word huh?)
And then there is the COMING (erchomai) when Jesus actualy begins his rule.
They use the NT's allusion to the "days of Noah" as proof for this.
The presence was equated with the warning era when Noah was building the ARK, and then the Coming is equated with the rain and the flood.
According to JW we are in the midst of the parasoia....
When Jesus's COMING (erchomai) arrives then is when he starts officially ruling.
I think I'm gonna need a few caffeine pills if I'm gonna try and figure out this logic, lol.
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JW spanking their kids
by asilentone inwhat do you think about jw spanking their kids at the kingdom hall?
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Honestly, I rarely see spankings in the kh anymore. I think JW parents, at least from what I've seen, don't spank as much. And I've been to about 8 halls or so in the last 8-10 years. There is much complaint about the backrooms being used as playrooms but parents don't seem to care much.
15 or 20 years ago there were tons of spankings. I'm glad to see JW parents are much better in that area...
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Shouldn't the 1,000 yr reign have already started in 1914?
by cognac ini asked my dad that years ago and he said that it wouldn't start until the new system comes.
does this not make sense to anybody else?
i thought it would have started when jesus came back whicj was supposedly in 1914... .
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cognac
The way they explained it was that although he was put on the throne in 1914, he wouldn’t start reigning until Armageddon was over.
Then he would start his 1000 year reign.
That was what was told to me also. Problem is, how can Jesus start his 1,000 year reign when the new system starts and also in 1914? I never really got there reasoning for that...
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Shouldn't the 1,000 yr reign have already started in 1914?
by cognac ini asked my dad that years ago and he said that it wouldn't start until the new system comes.
does this not make sense to anybody else?
i thought it would have started when jesus came back whicj was supposedly in 1914... .
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cognac
I asked my dad that years ago and he said that it wouldn't start until the new system comes. Does this not make sense to anybody else? I thought it would have started when Jesus came back whicj was supposedly in 1914...
So, is this a bit of a glitch in there doctrine or what?
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Thank-you! I didn't even know it was mothers day! It's my first mothers day! Now I have to celebrate!!!
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Updates on JW news, lawsuits, etc
by cognac ini thought it might be nice to put major news and lawsuit updates on a thread.
does anybody have updates on these:.
france tax - they owe about 50 mil.
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cognac
I thought it might be nice to put major news and lawsuit updates on a thread. Does anybody have updates on these:
- France Tax - They owe about 50 mil. When will they have to start paying it? How is the BORG reacting to it?
- Russia - Any new news on the ban?
Okay what are you wondering about? Do you have any updates for us?
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I think my sister finally got it...
by cognac ina couple of years ago we got into this huge family argument because i didn't believe jehovah was going to destroy 99.9% of the population at armageddon.
elders were involved and i almost got d'ffed.
i didn't talk to her or my parents for 4 months.
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cognac
A couple of years ago we got into this huge family argument because I didn't believe Jehovah was going to destroy 99.9% of the population at Armageddon. Elders were involved and I almost got d'ffed. I didn't talk to her or my parents for 4 months. My brother got involved and told my sister she was breaking up the family and then they got into an argument and didn't talk for months.
It was the biggest family disaster that we've probably ever been through.
Anyways...
She is now having problems with her husband and wants out of the marriage. She is kinda pushing it with having a scriptural separation. I told her that even if it was completely all her fault I would support her.
Needless to say there have been divisions in my family over this. Some are being very judgemental towards her. I've been able to talk to her and use some scriptures to clarify what the scriptures say regarding how to treat people even if they are wrong. She has brought up very vaguely about what happened between us and has even said that she understands how people would leave the truth.
Last night she said that her husband knew so much about the bible yet he wasn't loving. I pointed out that the pharisees knew a lot about the bible but they were unloving and condemned by Jesus. Then, I showed her that there were people who didn't have the law but naturally did things of the law because of the condition of there hearts. They didn't know the scriptures but were accepted by Jesus because of there heart condition.
She tried to correct me saying that they did have the law but just didn't understand it properly. I said that the scripture says they were "without law". So, they didn't have the law and were accepted by Jesus anyways.
I SAW IT. I saw a light click in her head. I knew she was thinking about our argument from years ago. She didn't say anything but I saw this "ah-ha" moment.
I don't think she doesn't believe JWs. But, something is clicking in her head like something somewhere isn't quite right. Whether she chokes it down and waits on the slave to clarify things I don't know.
I told her when I was going through tough times I read the bible only. No WTs, no Awakes, nothing. She said she would do this and start with Matthew but at wouldn't give up on the bible aid book to read the scriptures. I said that I used the insight book on the Hebrew scriptures but since the books she's reading are more interesting that maybe she could go without it. She said she would.
I encouraged her to think about what she was reading, ask questions, and picture what was going on in her head. Not to just read through it.
So that was it. I wonder if this just might be the beginning of the end for her?
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Circuit Overseers
by Eiben Scrood insome circuit overseers leave lasting impressions either for good or bad.
others i barely remember.
three that had the most impact on me were rodricks (that's how it's pronounced, not sure of the spelling), casino and shepherd.
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cognac
bttt
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Circuit Overseers
by Eiben Scrood insome circuit overseers leave lasting impressions either for good or bad.
others i barely remember.
three that had the most impact on me were rodricks (that's how it's pronounced, not sure of the spelling), casino and shepherd.
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cognac
Casino I think actually lost it.
I heard that also. I heard he was depressed and wouldn't leave his bed for months. Anyone know what happened with him?