Since god is in your imagination therefore so is heaven then you are free to imagine whatever you wish to imagine.
gravedancer
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Do animals go to heaven?
by master chief ingood question do animals go to heaven?
i ask this because jws say to me they dont,only humans go to heaven they say "that sounds like crap to me" surely animals are precious to god as well as humans and think at least animals dont use humans to test on!!
!and where does the bible say that animals dont get eternal life
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You had to go an ask me why I'm so angry?
by Mindchild intry this on for size.... skip starbuck: i was at a district assembly.
skip starbuck: i was about 9 years old.
skip starbuck: and i had trench mouth really bad.
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gravedancer
Try this one for size - bet it works:
Next assembly have undercover agents from child services hang close to the bathrooms. It is guaranteed that they will make many arrests of parents spanking the crap out of their kids.
Personally, I am not of he mindset that all spanking is abusive - but you will see LOTS of abusive spanking in the washrooms at any assembly.
MC - my sympathies go out to you. You and so many of my friends were badly abused and it was abuse sanctioned by BOTH religion and the culture of the day.
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Favorite movie line?
by gilwarrior inwhat is your favorite movie line?
please mention the movie line and why it is the best.. my favorite movie line:.
"ever since i was a kid...i always wanted to be a gangster.".
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gravedancer
"Yippie kay-yay, mother@#!%er." - John McClane in Die Hard
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Why the Bible anyway?
by willy_think inwhy do i believe the bible is the inspired word of god anyway?
here are some answers i consider wrong .
1. it just fell out of the sky.
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gravedancer
Rem - nice job....
Funny how they keep quoting the book we are questioning...
Hint to REM's fellow debaters: try proving the Bible is real without quoting from it. Since we don't believe it anyway then why try and use that as an authority...
It's a favorite dub/human tactic - if they can find the argum,ent printed somewhere they automatically think it has authority nd credibility. We use that trick in the commercial world all the time. Knowing that people believe something has authority if it is in print...so we get our stuff printed and then they believe us.
something about the nature of sheep makes them easy to fleece...
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Buggin Out !
by mmetz ini would like to say to all who care, i am leaving this thread for good.
the bible talks about the unbeliever and those are the true apostates.
even though there are many here who truly love the lord as i do and have shared and taught an awful lot of helpful information to help me fight the battle against false religion, i thank you and pray for each of you.
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gravedancer
I would like to say to all who care, I am leaving this thread for good
so why did you start the THREAD then?
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WARNING - THE WTBS CAN LOCATE YOU
by Jim Dee inguys and girls.
the society have now instituted carnivore - their data tracking system installed into the uk bethel to track all apostate email and activity.
the reason is the amount of "leaks" of confidential mail and facts.. they have tried and failed with legal blocking, so now they are plugging the leaks, these guys were brought into mill hill late last year after the leak of the june 1 letter.. their method is to use message boards and chat rooms for the "disaffected" and get them to go to other "society monitored" web sites.
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gravedancer
fyi...cookies are not associated with your email id. They are associated with the id you logon to your pc with.
for all the non believersclick this link and see what it know about you: http://snoop.anonymizer.com/
that's all I have to add
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Real Economic Security? Some Politics
by Valentine infor those interested,a new press release by now ,beyond enron,the bigger picture.
enjoy.
tina.
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gravedancer
Totally capitalistic, with no government involvement the way the Libertarians say
me too
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Real Economic Security? Some Politics
by Valentine infor those interested,a new press release by now ,beyond enron,the bigger picture.
enjoy.
tina.
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gravedancer
Seeker - I agree with some of what you said:
The U.S. is closer to socialism than capitalism. Foreign goods made better and cheaper than U.S. goods? Stick tariffs on the foreign goods. Major automaker about to go out of business? Congress bails them out. Farmers get paid by the government to grow crops. Cities give "incentives" (cash) to companies to get them to stay within the cities tax roles. Capitalism? Hardly!
This is one of the evidences of what I would agree is "corporate welfare". Government protection against globalized capitalism is totally in the face of true freedom - hence true capitalism. But by the same token liberals want it both ways...especially in the US. they want no "corporate welfare" but they also want protectionist actions to prevail - like the squashing of free trade, global labor forces, the protection of the American worker.People should be compensated according to the value they add. so should corporations. Government bailouts stink - they are totally in the face of true capitalism. I totally oppose them...but I also realize and accept the consequences of NOT having them.
If GM cannot build a better car than some Japanese company then may the best company win....please governement stay out.
I too oppose the whole way lobbying of governments is done by corporations (don't think it will change). But I also want it to work 2 ways...coprorations leave government alone...and governments leave corporations alone (unless their is criminal activity).
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Real Economic Security? Some Politics
by Valentine infor those interested,a new press release by now ,beyond enron,the bigger picture.
enjoy.
tina.
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gravedancer
Thank you for the link Tina.
I read the article and wish to clarify something prior to responding. Although the article was posted/penned by NOW my response is not in disagreement with woman's issues.
What is a recession? That’s when your neighbor loses his job. What is a depression? That’s when you lose your job!!
In short I am in disagreement with the concept portrayed by liberals when they use the term "corporate welfare". They have found a term which conveyed disdain to the middle class “welfare” and using linguistics they have molded it into a term to portray capitalism as evil.
Capitalism is the source of all wealth. Capitalism is the only morally and ethically correct economic system, because it is based on voluntary exchange and not coercion. The alternative branches toward socialism, collectivism and altruism. Everyone hates corporations – they have become the evil big brother. People need to look at what the purpose of a corporation is: to make money. Unashamedly, I repeat, the purpose of a corporation is to make money. The money is in the form of profit which goes back to the owners of the corporation. In order make money the corporation realizes that they need demand and duplication. Demand gives rise to the need for duplication which in turn breeds a need for workers to perform duplication. Workers are people who need jobs to make their own money. Without corporations there are no jobs. The bigger a corporation the more it needs to meet demand and duplicate effort – thus providing jobs. If demand drops then the need for duplication drops and so do the jobs….and then the corporation is accused of being disloyal.
Is that truly the case? To answer put yourself in the position of an owner. Ok so most people don’t own companies directly. But they do own investments either in stocks, mutual funds or pensions. Thus most (yes there are exceptions) people are owners….and what do they do when the company in which they own stock starts experiencing slowdowns or losses? They complain because now their investments (shares) start to slump and they blame the corporation again. So the corporation, which they own, starts to look for efficiencies and cost cutting (other people’s jobs) in order to make its owners happy. Now you are happy because your stock starts going up again as earnings start increasing, but the laid off workers they hate corporations….
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