Posts by processor

very simply, the watchtower society predicted the end of the "gentile times" for autumn of 1914; yet the first world war began in the summer of 1914 (july 28) and really was triggered in june of 1914 with the assassination of archduke ferdinand.

as such, the first world war actually lends no support whatsoever to the watchtower society's 1914-gentile times doctrine despite the fact that the society has continuously offered it as support.. rutherford was very aware of this major discrepancy in the doctrine.

processor

I once had conversation with the WTS about this question. Primarily, my question was: Why do they claim that the "seven times" started at the death of governor Gedaliah and NOT at the death of the last King, Zedekiah. They say that there was no King on Jehovah's throne for "seven times", so this period should have started at the death of the last King. Gedaliah was only a governor, and there have been other governors in Jerusalem since them.

I added the question about the World War. In August, it started. In October, Jesus began ruling as heavenly King, and SOME TIME AFTER THAT, he cast out Satan from heaven, and AFTER THAT, Satan caused World War I. This does not work out. I claimed that King Zedekiah was killed in July, so it would perfectly fit the start of World War I to count the "seven times" from Zedekiah's death.

The reply that I got was very disappointing. Basically they claimed that the "seven times" must have started at Gedaliah's death because it was always written like that in the Watchtower, even in very old issues. Their main argument was that Jerusalem's devastation started after Gedaliah's death.

I wrote them that their explanation did not satisfy me. In their reply they told me that they cannot say anything else regarding that topic, and they sent me an article about a sister who waited for decades until some doctrine was changed.

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Antimalware Doctor bug HELP!

by MsDucky in

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how do i get rid of it.

it's shut down all of my virus/spyware controls.

i can't get past it.

processor

I recommend downloading and running the free version of MBAM from http://www.malwarebytes.org. It usually gets rid of everything.

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THE WITCHTOWER 08/2010: Scriptural Questions Answered

by processor in

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the new issue of the witchtower is available for download now.. .

disfellowshipping a timeless arrangement (2): which other pre-christian jehovah's witnesses must be disfellowshipped?.

scriptural questions answered: where does the "brighter light" originate?

processor

The new issue of The Witchtower is available for download now .

http://prozessor.bplaced.net/pdf/witchtower_08_2010.pdf

http://svhelden.kilu.de/pdf/witchtower_08_2010.pdf

THE WITCHTOWER on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Witchtower/114394598605300

All of my publications can be also found here: http://svhelden.gmxhome.de/e

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Jesus is bisexual according to the watchtower!

by 5go in

it just hit me 144,000 are married to the jesus christ yet it is made of men and women all kings.

so really he is technically gay.. .

so then why are the witnesses for not for gay marriage?.

processor

Christian men should imitate Jesus. So, I could consider 2 or 3 women a "collective wife", a "wife class", "all one wife in union with me".

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Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock book

by rebel8 in

maybe i'm dreaming, but......is anyone out there willing to scan the book and sell the scan to us ex-non-elders?

i would love to have a copy of the whole thing....i'm sure others would, too.

i scour ebay, but no luck.

processor

Dragonlady asked that 5 years ago =)

Sorry, I resurrected this thread because I'm looking for the updated version of the "loose conduct" definition on page 93.

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Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock book

by rebel8 in

maybe i'm dreaming, but......is anyone out there willing to scan the book and sell the scan to us ex-non-elders?

i would love to have a copy of the whole thing....i'm sure others would, too.

i scour ebay, but no luck.

processor

whether Loose Conduct required the "fondling of breasts" to be naked or from outside of her clothing

In any case, the German version clearly indicates that both breasts must be involved ("fondling of the breasts"). So, fondling one breast is obviously no form of loose conduct.

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Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock book

by rebel8 in

maybe i'm dreaming, but......is anyone out there willing to scan the book and sell the scan to us ex-non-elders?

i would love to have a copy of the whole thing....i'm sure others would, too.

i scour ebay, but no luck.

processor

My German copy of the book says that the definition of "loose conduct" on page 93 has been replaced. Originally it read in English: "It may include the willful practice of heavy petting or the fondling of breasts."

The new definition is (own translation): "It involves, among others, wilful, repeated and passionate voluptuous embracing, caressing and kissing and the repeated fondling of breasts."

Can someone confirm that and give me the exact wording of the English edition?

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Does any version of the CD contain mags and books prior to 1970?

by notverylikely in

just checking.....

processor

AFAIK the CD contains the latest version that has been printed. So, when Watchtower volumes were reprinted after years, sometimes their text was modified at that time. And of course they put the latest version on the CD. But there are no changes from the latest printed copies to the CD; e. g. the 5/74 KM praising JWs who sold their houses to "spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end" in the ministry is on it.