Posts by hotspur

I've tried everything I can to get her to come.... no joy! In fact, if she was to come now it would be most upsetting... I've just come to terms with the fact and I'm not letting it get to me!

My wife-to-be has offered to transport her, (160 miles) put her into hotels etc,. No way ... "Hotspur can explain why I just can't be there". Ummmm - no I can't. I can't offer one sensible reason! Not one..... She even had the temerity to ask for her corsage to be sent to her that we ordered! Wife-to-be's response is unrepeatable! My daughter (in) was asked to take some pictures for her grand-mum. Son-in-law's (also in) response was, "If you want some photos come and takes them yourself!"

Whatever I reason I give I'll let you know after our Honeymoon! Actually, I won't ever give a reason..... she has ownership of this one - not me!

I do know this has caused a big problem for the furture relationship with her new daughter-in-law. I said I'd never speak to her again.... if that's what she wants. If whe wants to use those rules then no communication it is! New wife-to-be said, "That'll make you just like the witlesses". Good point..... who will crumble?

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Another JW charged with raping children

by Burger Time in

click here for link

hotspur

Knowing the UK judiciary, that's probably 10 years total!

The UK prison inmates are notoriously 'hard' on child sex offenders..... don't think they worry about two witnesses - the more the merrier in their view.

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Current Baptism Questions????

by Honesty in

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a friend has a relative who has been having a 'bible' study and has just been 'approved' to spread the watchtower's message.. the relative is 'working' their towards the portable swimming pool and my friend would like to use the current 100+ questions to show his friend exactly what it is all about to get involved with the jw's and what can get him shunned for life if he fails to measure up.. my friend has already read and agrees with auldsoul and what is on jwfacts about baptism but wants the actual questions as they are presented in the latest 'organized to do the fds' will' book.. thanks in advance..

hotspur

I thought there were only two ..... at least according to my, then, 9 year old nephew and, as he said, the answer to both of these is "Yes"!

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So... Do you think you're good looking?

by LouBelle in

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after laylas' : do you think looks are important thread, thought this would be a good follow up.. personally i'm just a regular girl, nothing exception, got good teeth, i do love my hair and don't think i'm ugly, but know that i'm no stunner either .

so come on be honest - how do you rate yourselves..

hotspur

That's a bit like asking "Are you a bad driver?".... Who's going to admit to that?

Me, I didn't think I was until I met the love of my life 4 years ago. My ex-wife never, ever mentioned what I looked like.

This new lady says I look like a cross between George Clooney and Dustin Hoffman.... am I gonna argue against that....? ( we get married next Friday)

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Ok guy's what's in your pockets?

by greenhornet in

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hotspur

A pen.... £3-97p .... my wallet ...... a 4Gbyte memory stick!

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My rebuttal to the Watchtower NGO A4 PDF Nov 07

by middleman in

or you can just look at it at the website without the page numbers i referenced.

i know this is very old hat for most folks here but new to me.

most of the information i got was from here and the un website.

hotspur

Just a point on the signature portion...... it must be said that IF the 1991 scanned form is genuine then there is NO place for a signature.

That said... it may be only a "fact-fiinder" form.... there may be other forms (more than likely) which would require a signature(s) making it binding on both parties. I agree with you. I simply cannot comprehend a venture as this, between large organisations as these two are, not having a formal sheet with signaturies of both parties.

I have often filled out an application request for some service or other but, when the service is finally offered I was required to sign an agreement.

I smell a rat......

I will say this whole issue is the one that really did it for me...... hypocrits!

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State A Simple Opinion About Jehovah's Witnesses

by minimus in

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i think jehovah's witnesses are extremely judgmental.

hotspur

Selfish ..... opinionated ..... misguided ..... arrogant ..... judgmental .... elitist ....

... that's just to start with!

I feel sorry for them really..... :-(

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Do JW's donate blood?

by hotspur in

i raised this point in another, short lived, thread but feel it needs more thought...... at least some other opinion.. now, before we go too far in this discussion i reckon i know the answer and it's an empahtic no!.

but.... how can they, in all conscience, receive the fractions they are now supposedly permitted to take?

is it another case of..... "living in the world but being no part of it"?

hotspur

Thanks Blondie..... I knew I could rely upon somebody on this board to come up with the facts!

Just as I thought .... a pile of hypocrisy wrapped up to look like well researched scriptural doctrine. No wonder I feel so unshackled since I've come to terms totally with my escape! It's taken a few years.

I like the way it's confused with yet another controversial subject "Christian Holidays"... which is something else they can never celebrate and yet enjoy some of it's benefits. I knew of one elder who hated the fact the meetings sometimes fell on Xmas and Boxing days! It interferred with his "break" as he called it!

So, as a Charitable organization how do they charitably benefit the community? I really hope they lose this tax dodge for being a Registered Charity.... they do not know the meaning of the word! Grrrrr!

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Do JW's donate blood?

by hotspur in

i raised this point in another, short lived, thread but feel it needs more thought...... at least some other opinion.. now, before we go too far in this discussion i reckon i know the answer and it's an empahtic no!.

but.... how can they, in all conscience, receive the fractions they are now supposedly permitted to take?

is it another case of..... "living in the world but being no part of it"?

hotspur

I raised this point in another, short lived, thread but feel it needs more thought...... at least some other opinion.

Now, before we go too far in this discussion I reckon I know the answer and it's an empahtic NO!

But.... how can they, in all conscience, receive the fractions they are now supposedly permitted to take? Is it another case of..... "living in the world but being no part of it"? One the basic tenets of Christianity is that "it is better to give than receive" This would make their action a stance of pure hypocrisy..... maybe I'm missing something (again)!

I'd love to know the reasoning on this now. When I was in it was simple.... no blood! So donation wasn't really an issue but with more leniency toward what is permissible then the donation question raises it's head quite prominently.