I remember when I was little and seeing a thunderstorm approaching from the east, which is kind of rare for my area. Storms almost always come from the west here. Anyway, it was sunset, so the whole stormhead was lit up like fire, and there was lightning inside it, and it was just amazing. But instead of watching the whole thing, I was curled up in a corner in the house convinced that the Big A was on us and Jehovah was going to murder billions of people any minute. What a mindfuck these people put on us. I never had a "demon attack" like your experience, but that must have been truly awful. I bet you also got in trouble for breaking the window, eh?
Elgiard
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Horrifying Demon Attack: My Experience
by laverite inon a warm summer day when i was about 12 years old (early 1980s), i was home alone for a brief time (family had gone to the grocery store).
i had always been terrified of the demons and was constantly worried about a possible demon attack.
being born in, growing up a dub, the devil and his demons were always either on my mind or not too far from conscious thought.
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Atheists Against Abortion?
by AK - Jeff inhttp://objectivewriting.blogspot.com/2007/09/atheist-stand-against-abortion.html.
thoughts that somewhat parallel mine on this subject.
rational thought and rejection of creationism might not automatically place one in a particular stance on every issue, and may result in somewhat odd positions, compared to the stereotypical ones.
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Elgiard
I consider myself agnostic more than anything else, and never really got why abortion is any more a religious issue than any other kind of manslaughter. I believe that it's only okay to kill another human to save yourself. For everybody. I think we also do a lot of irrational tip-toeing around people's feelings on this issue too. Like being against it and thinking that it's wrong, but still wanting people to have the choice to do it anyway, or claiming that only a woman is qualified to make that decision. Before I was a man I was a human. I've never been a conjoined twin, but I feel totally fine in saying that it's wrong for one to choose to kill the other just because it no longer wants the other one attached to its body. I'm sure an unwanted pregnancy sucks and all, but those are the cards you're dealt, ya know? I've been in lots of situations where killing someone would make my problems go away
Cliffs:
1) I think killing someone else is always wrong for everybody, unless it's to save your own life.
2) I think that killing someone inside a woman's uterus doesn't magically make it okay. Ever.
3) I don't think you have to be anybody special to have an opinion on what's wrong for everybody.
4) What jesus has to do with any of this remains a mystery to me.
Thanks.
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The accident of life
by free2beme ini hear the arguement that life could not come about, as pure accident or without divine intervention.
told that such a thing is too complex to happen on it's own, that it requires a divine intervention.
while i am neither a extreme believer of evolution, there is proof and here it is ... that pure chaos can happen by chance.. i have these keys, about six attached on two link rings.
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Would you tell your JW coworker you used to be a JW
by serendipity ini've realized a new employee is a jw, because he likes to leave jw literature on his desk and because he mentioned "congregation responsibilities".
i am debating whether to tell him of my jw past.. the main reason for considering this is because i had mentioned to another coworker "g" that i was raised as a jw, before the jw's arrival.
if the jw tries to witness to "g", "g" might reveal that fact.
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Elgiard
For me personally, I wouldn't say anything about it unless I was asked. If he asked me, then I'd have plenty to tell him. But that's just because I'm completely and totally out and I don't care if anyone knows it. In your case, since you have family who are in and it could get messy if this person starts poking around, I wouldn't say a word. If he presses the issue, then I think BabaYaga gave good advice, just say you have family who are in.
You're not being dishonest by not telling him, and you mustn't feel that way. It's no one's business but your own. You have no responsibility to tell this person anything about yourself that you don't want him to know, it's not as if you're married.
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Would You Believe This?
by snowbird ini've recently processed information on a leviticus, chronicle, jehoshaphat, and thessalonians?.
all males.. this here is the bible belt, i tell you!
syl.
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Elgiard
I remember reading a story in high school that had a guy in it named First-And-Second-Thessalonians. They called him 'Thess.
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Brothers, did you like being asked to say a prayer?
by sacolton ini dreaded it!
i've seen brothers freeze-up doing prayers with long uncomfortable silences to think of what to say.
sometimes my mind would just go blank and i would panic at the thought if i paused.
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Elgiard
It was always a little awkward speaking aloud to an imaginary dude while a bunch of grown adults pretended to be intensly interested in my every word, but not without its amusing aspects as well.
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Circ. Ass. Last Weekend...oh boy!
by tresdecu inso i had to suffer through the ca last weekend, it was rough at 1st, i was actually sick to my stomach the night before, fortunately my little boy kept me occupied during the session and i got to walk around a lot.. the do cracked down on 'true christians' watching vampire movies aka....twilight.
i know this series is hugely popular with a lot of teens and 20somthings, even a young elder and his wife (mostly the wife) are really into them.. he said true christians just don't watch such things.
haha.
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Elgiard
I remember when I was little an elder condemned any kind of cartoons or anything with talking animals, because their unnatural ability to speak didn't come from Jehovah. Also the PO said that we shouldn't watch anything rated PG because that stood for "pure garbage".
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Russell's "Pyramid Chronology" & Rutherford's "Beth-Sarim"
by Bangalore inrussell's "pyramid chronology" & rutherford's "beth-sarim".
from a wt apologist standpoint.. http://searchforbibletruths.blogspot.com/2009/09/russel.html.
bangalore.
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Elgiard
You forgot rum pot.
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Did you ever feel let down by the Bethel tour?
by maninthemiddle inreading jeff's thread about dress made me think of my one and only trip to bethel.. i can't remember if i was babtised at the time, but i went with a bus load of jws.. like someone said in the last thread, printing presses and empty rooms.
i was very disapointed, however i don't think i had any pre-concieved notions of what it would be like.
what i was diapointed in was so much of the "tour" was walking hallways looking at exhibits behind glass.
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Elgiard
I never had money to go on the tour, but if I had I probably would have loved it, just for a chance to get away from the house and do something, anything. Besides being a JW, which meant that fun of any kind was verboten, both my parents are the kind of people who never do anything. We went camping one time when I was growing up, and by going camping, I mean we drove to the next county over, set up a tent, took a nap in it, and packed up to go home before dark. And that was the highlight of the whole summer. I had never been outside of Ohio until my twenties, and that was for work. I can't remember us ever really going anywhere or doing anything as a family. I was so desperate for something to do, I used to cry actual tears if I didn't get to go to the grocery store. Everyone else came back from the tour and couldn't stop gushing about how wonderful it was and I really felt left out at the time.