What would the parents do if the babysitter told the youngest one horrible and ridiculous lies about the parents, and then sent her to try to convince her brothers and sisters that the lies were true? Then when the others rejected the horrible lies she completely ignored them and forbade the youngest from having anything to do with the others, punishing her if she did. If evil people hurt the children, rather than report them to the authorities she'd tell them to be patient and wait for the parents to deal with it in their own time. She would also deny them medical attention, telling them that's what their parents wanted.
Elgiard
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"Come Be My Follower" - Christendom is bad for sponsoring charities and feeding the poor - what?
by Bonnie_Clyde ini just got the "come be my follower" book and am shocked at their illustration on page 186. maybe i'm more shocked that at one time i would have accepted this warped reasoning.. first they quote jesus at matt.
7:21-23: "'lord, lord, did we not...perform many powerful works in your name?
' and yet then i will confess to them: i never knew you!
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is it ok for an agnostic to pray to God?
by poor places ini used to say a prayer most nights before i fell asleep, and i felt real comfort.
no matter how much anxiety i had, praying made me feel that i was ok because a higher power (one who had counted the hairs of my head and who considered me worth many sparrows!
) would take care of everything.. now, after my jw awakening, i'm an agnostic, and i feel less comfort than i did before, because i don't know if anyone powerful is looking after me.
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Elgiard
I think acknowledging that you don't know is more intellectually honest than convincing yourself that you were sure, and isn't phony at all. Is it an act of desperation? Maybe, but not necessarily, and if it is, then so what? Every living thing in the history of the universe has done desperate things at some point in time. It's okay to be desperate, especially when so much is hidden and uncertain. We are truly walking through "the valley of the shadow". And don't forget that if some kind of god does exists, then it doesn't want you to be sure, or it would reveal itself more plainly to you.
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Were you rebellious?
by God_Delusion inwhen i was younger (from the moment i could reason and remember), i didn't like going to the meetings, having a weekly bible study or going out on the ministry.
in fact, i didn't like to do any "theocratic" stuff.. i would of course, get beaten up by my loving zealous pioneer mother due to my rebellious nature.. funny thing was, that even from the age of 5, i knew something was wrong with this religion (cult).
at the age of 16, i decided that i simply didn't believe in any of it, but i didn't leave as my mother threatened to make me homeless if i stopped going to the meetings.
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Elgiard
I wasn't really rebellious because up until early adulthood I absolutely believed it.
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Did your Kingdom Hall have kitchen?
by asilentone insomeone told me there are few kingdom halls with kitchens, i was surprised about it.
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Elgiard
Mine had a lunch room in the basement. I think there was like a workshop sink, and a microwave. I don't think there was an oven though. It's been so long that I don't really remember.
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What parts of the BIBLE seem like GREEK MYTHOLOGY and stories to you?
by foolsparadise inplease share your thoughts.
there are many things in the bible that sound like greek mythologies.
i will start and you can add to the list.. a talking walking snake.. immaculate conception.. angels having sex with women creating nephilim.. a dove descending upon jesus after he was babtized.. the transfiguration.. some dude wrestling with an angel all night.. jonah being swallowed by a whale and living inside for three days.. a talking burning bush.
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Elgiard
The bible parts.
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JW teaching aside, do you belive in spanking children?
by highdose intheres recently an article in a uk newspaper about a small boy whose family are at their wits end.
it seems he will just run amok, create chaos and danger.
hes been permently excluded from school because of hes terrible behaviour.
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Elgiard
I'm totally cool with spanking, but only if they deserve it. But then I believe that violence is okay, so there's that.
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Got a DC invite in my door last week!
by Coffee House Girl ini got one shoved under my door and i even have a "no trespassing" sign on my door what the heck???.
i thought they couldn't leave literature if there was a no trespassing sign posted???
am i wrong?.
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Elgiard
That might be what was shoved into my door this afternoon when I got back from the store. I don't know, because I didn't look at it and it's still lying on the porch.
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Atheists Against Abortion?
by AK - Jeff inhttp://objectivewriting.blogspot.com/2007/09/atheist-stand-against-abortion.html.
thoughts that somewhat parallel mine on this subject.
rational thought and rejection of creationism might not automatically place one in a particular stance on every issue, and may result in somewhat odd positions, compared to the stereotypical ones.
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Elgiard
I don't agree that my opinion is no more valid than anyone else's. I would argue that there are plenty of opinions which are less valid than mine. I believe that opinions are like that other thing that everybody has one of, some stink more than others. But that's not the issue at stake.
Obviously not everyone in our society agrees that murder or theft are wrong either. All you have to do is watch the news to see that. Once upon a time a lot of people didn't agree that slavery was wrong. Should the abolishionists then have just kept their opposition to themselves since not everyone agreed and their opinion was no more valid than anyone else's? If everyone opposed to slavery had just been satisfied with not doing it themselves, then slavery would still be legal in the United States today. The same is true for child labor, women's suffrage, and every other moral injustice in history which was once accepted before being overcome by civilized society. It's not the ones who "just don't do it themselves" who change things for the better.
It's socially acceptable to have an opinion on almost any issue of morality except abortion, and then if you're opposed you're supposed to just not do it yourself and let everyone else get on with it, and that's not rational. I think that the moral dancing people do around this one issue is silly.
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Atheists Against Abortion?
by AK - Jeff inhttp://objectivewriting.blogspot.com/2007/09/atheist-stand-against-abortion.html.
thoughts that somewhat parallel mine on this subject.
rational thought and rejection of creationism might not automatically place one in a particular stance on every issue, and may result in somewhat odd positions, compared to the stereotypical ones.
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Elgiard
I say, if you don't want abortions to happen, just don't get one.
A lot of people share this mindset, and I have to say it doesn't make much sesne to me. No one would say "If you don't want murder to happen, just don't kill anybody," or "If you don't want stealing to happen, don't steal anything," and expect that to be okay with everybody. Naturally, if someone is opposed to something wrong then they're not going to do it themselves. I'm against raping people so I don't do it, but I don't think it's okay for other people to do it either.
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Joining a new religion after being a JW is like......
by exwhyzee injoining a new religion after being a lifetime jw would be like getting remarried at middle age after years of putting your heart, soul, faith, and commitment into it only to find out it was a hoax.
i have been happily married for many years and if (god forbid) i should ever find myself single one day...i can't imagine ever wanting to remarry...especially not if i had been terribly betrayed as i feel i have been by this organization..
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Elgiard
I didn't put myself into the JW trap, but having escaped I'd never willingly put myself into a different one.