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  The State of the Union

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  i am an american, and so is my president.

  this is an iron no speech can hold.

  it can only be experienced.

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  I thought it was a good speech. I don't trust lawyers or politicians so I tend to take it all with a grain of salt in regards to the tax cuts and the Republican approach to the economy. I do however think it moves beyond partylines when they start talking war. Nobody wants a war, neither party wants a war, but the fact is an enormous group of people hate the USA out there and they have attacked us in our home. Many hate us out of cult hypnosis and also hate all infidels, many hate us out of envy and some have legitimate complaints that can be solved without killing accountants and airline passengers.
  Regardless, having a government willing to give these people weapons that can hurt us can't be allowed. Not acting can lead to a mushroom cloud over London or L.A. or maybe Cheyenne. Putting this regime down is a necessity. Maybe it will help keep us from having to put down Iran or North Korea. Not acting decisively, in my opinion, will just lead to another tragedy that WILL force us TO act decisively. These people will not stop on their own, they have to be stopped by someone. Better now than after more innocent people die. Cutting up flight attendants and blowing up buildings full of secretaries, I get angry thinking about these Islamic Warriors. What do you think we would do if they managed a suitcase nuke strike on a major American city like say Chicago??? Or a an outbreak of plague that killed tens of thousands in the US, Canada or the U.K.??? God help them. In the ashes of a mushroom cloud of any size I think decisions on retaliation would be severe, immediate and unhindered by concerns about collateral damage or rebuilding the nation we strike. George Bush is doing what he thinks he has to do to protect this country and prevent such a situation. I think he is right.
  My heart goes out to the grunts in the line company that goes into that hell-hole to dig him out. I hope as in the last war the problem includes the logistics of taking care of all those surrendering.

  Grunt
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  WHAT DID YOU MISS OUT ON WHEN IN THE BORG

  by nightwarrior in

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  we as a family allways wanted a family pet as in (dog ) but as the ministry loomed every weekend ,as well as the meetings we decided that it would be to much trouble ,subconciously the influence came from other members in the congregation ,which in turn came from the elders in turn from the bethel ,allways sprouting on about the ministry first ,you never had time for anything elsemow ,yes a dog would be to much trouble,but now,for the past two /half years my younger children are enjoying the companionship of an animal in the house,as well as 2 cats which we have had for past eight years,.

  did you find time for animals.. what did you miss out on ,allso for past 14 years we have had different caravans and motor homes ,.

  what did you miss out on when in the borg ,and how did it affect you.

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  In a nutshell THE TRUTH. Instead I was sold a pack of lies which was called THE TRUTH. I am only grateful that I finally saw through it and extricated myself from it. My greatest sadness is that my parents will die believing the lie and that my daughter has sold her parents for the lie. I guess everything has consequences. I went door to door telling innocent people the crap and drug home into my own nest where my family was infected with it. If I could change one thing in my life it would be ever becoming affiliated with the cult know as Jehovah's Witnesses. It was a poison seed which has brought a full harvest.

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  I Am So Sad

  by Windchaser in

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  january 26 is a particularly hard day for me.

  two of my children were born on this day, five years apart.

  i can't wish either one of them a happy birthday.

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  Hi Windchaser,
  I am so sorry for the loss of your son and so sorry for your pain with your daughter. Being human we can only do our best. When you were raising them in the cult I am sure you thought you were doing what was right and what was best for their long term interests. Nothing can undo the loss of your son, please accept my deepest sympathy for that, however your daughter can change and might. No one knows what lies ahead. I hope with all my heart that your daughter comes around and that she finds the maturity and love in her heart to forgive any pain and to come close to you again.
  I can think of no better place to come with such a situation than this board. So many here are in at least partially similar circumstances. It is good that you can also hear from children who are the other side of the coin as with Jade. I lost my daughter to the cult also and also because I exposed her to it in her youth. There are a lot of great stories of people who regained loved ones lost because of this cult. I hope yours becomes one of those. Good luck and best wishes to you.

  Grunt
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  Visited by JWs today

  by Soledad in

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  my mom had an accident about two weeks ago, fortunately she is ok. im living in my parents house now after my husband (yet again) threatened to "beat the crap out of me"---that story in another post some other time.

  needless to say, ever since she got out of the hospital the phone rings about 50 times a day, mostly calls from the "hermanos.

  " today a couple that i have known for about 15 years comes to visit, and their "discomfort" with my presence (i am da) is quite noticeable.

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  Please excuse my typo! I am regret that I made it! Ha. I was talking to my wife while I posted it and didn't catch the error. Good luck to you and yours Soledad.

  Grunt
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  Visited by JWs today

  by Soledad in

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  my mom had an accident about two weeks ago, fortunately she is ok. im living in my parents house now after my husband (yet again) threatened to "beat the crap out of me"---that story in another post some other time.

  needless to say, ever since she got out of the hospital the phone rings about 50 times a day, mostly calls from the "hermanos.

  " today a couple that i have known for about 15 years comes to visit, and their "discomfort" with my presence (i am da) is quite noticeable.

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  Hi Soledad,
  Good job. If you are living there and taking care of your mom then it is YOUR house too. Trying to confine you in your own home is wrong and giving in to the phoney bastards. The only power they have is what we give them. You like Paul, refuse to have a part in the hypocrisy of an unchristian act of shunning. Like I said good job. Before too long this bunch will be a distant memory, like the Shakers but without a legacy of good furniture. I am regret that this bunch in Brooklyn never faced any punishment for the crimes they committed, the families broken apart by their slander, the children molested over their false pride, the women abused because of bad advice, the men, women and children killed by their policies on blood and other medical matters. Like David, I hate to murderers go unpunished to their graves. At least most lived to see the sham they promoted exposed by time for the lie it was.
  I am sorry for you mom over her accident and especially for still believing the lie as truth. That too may change, I hope it does, as I hope it does for my parents.

  Best wishes,
  Grunt
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  Printing /Jehovah Ain't Paying!

  by metatron in

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  here are some choice phrases quoted from the letter (dated oct. 28) sent to congregations about changes in printing:.

  "saved us millions of dollars" , "additional savings" , "consolidated savings of money.

  and manpower", "less personel and more savings".

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  Thanks Metatron for another great post. I appreciate the facts you offer up as I have no other source of information than this board.
  As to the motives, well the deal in Mexico where they pretended not to be a religion for money purposes says it pretty well. I believe at the higher levels it is all about money and power no matter what they tell themselves.
  I will just be glad when they have outsourced themselves out of existance. For the average old publisher Brooklyn was more than just a printing factory and a headquarters bldg. The Farm growing the food was more about brothers producing healthy food for other brothers than a cost saver. As they make more and more fiscally responsible business decisions it will become more and more obvious that they are just that, a business. As the lawyers have more and more input into statements of belief and baptizmal vows and as they shrink they close ranks, I hope the little cult pops into nothingness.
  I will cheer when the Watchtower sign is replaced by Budweiser or Fly Southwestern, when the last sworn to poverty Watchtower Slave is freed against his own will, when the last old liar who claimed to be a Great Tree of Righteousness is chopped down by aqe and rots with the rest of the debris. I hope the old geezers who are left are able to look around and fully appreciate just how wrong they were, and just what they gave up. They could have had a life after all, instead of destroying other's lives. Still, they are getting off light. They are down-sizing and dying of old age, they deserved a tongue rotting plague.

  Grunt
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  So What Was The First Thing That You Did...

  by Englishman in

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  ..after you were baptised, and how did you feel?.

  i went for a swim, having got baptised at orchard beach, new york.

  i was disappointed that i didn't feel any sort of warm glow.. when my dad was baptised, it was at epsom circuit assembly, london.

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  I was baptized in Houston, Texas at the Astrodome. Big assembly and a lot of people getting dunked. I was surprized that none of the "brothers and Sisters" seemed very friendly. That was unusual. I guess some of them were having the feelings described above. I felt pretty good. I was sure of the "Truth" at that time. My poor wife had to put up with it all. I will never be able to repay her for her love and patience during my know-it-all days as a cult member. Wow. Know it all, what a joke. Believe it all, maybe, and know nothing. I am still amazed I was ever conned into being a part of such a group and ashamed of the pain I caused people I loved. The results of that ill-fated decision to get baptized still reverberate through my now disjointed family. My brother summed it up pretty good when he said, "That religion ate into our family like a cancer."

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  Enjoyed another sunset!

  by Joyzabel in

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  well, since chat is down, i'm forced to go outside and enjoy the sunsets.

  thought you guys would like to see this evenings.

  the afterglow is just as pretty as when the sun is going down.

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  Thanks for sharing the view, it makes me homesick though. My wife and I came down through Defuniak Springs and across on the I-10 the other night and I thought of y'all. It was pretty late, we didn't get home until after midnight, so it would have been hard to drop down and say hello. Sometime, though, I would sure like to meet you and yours and maybe eat some shrimp together at the restaurant of your choice.
  You have chosen good board names, They express my feelings well. I went by a Greek name on another board but on this one just wanted to be plain me.
  Anyway, thanks again for another beautiful set of pictures.

  Grunt
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  None baptized at circuit assembly in Greeley,CO.

  by spanky in

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  first time i have ever seen or heard of this but no one was baptized with 800+ in attendance at our circuit assembly two weeks back!

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  I'm just happy for the good people of Colorado. It seems the cancer is in remission! This area should be studied and the results applied to less fortunate towns.

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  Decline in Slovenia

  by izobcenec in

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  i would just like to inform you all, that we have 1% decline of dubs here in slovenia.... its the first ever decline in the history of our country and we are partying all night long :)

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  Grunt

  Happy for you Izo,
  Good to see the forces of Darkness in retreat! Also nice to know we "apostates" have a promised land! May their numbers spiral downward into nothingness! What agony that causes a profit dominated, numbers oriented, legalistic cult.

  Grunt