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I hates 'em, I HATES 'EM, I REALLY HATES 'EM

by Grunt in

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i really do hate them.. every now and then it does me good to make my views on the cult known as jehovah's witnesses known.

i didn't come to this view slowly or rashly, but over a period of some thirty years or more.

when i think of the futures i have seen shredded, the hypocrites i have seen looking down their twisted noses from the bottom of a pit while they thought they were on a pedestal of righteousness, the children i have seen tortured over issues they needn't have faced, the couples i have seen turn on one another and break apart over this phoney "religion", the children i have seen turn on their parents, brothers and sisters, the selfish things i have seen charlatans posing as christians do, the ignorance of the bible i have seen expounded with the tones and knowing looks of superiority, the tears i have seen shed by caring puppet-people trying to serve god honestly but being forced to do uncaring things by the strings pulled in new york, well....... have i mentioned i hates'em!!!!!!!!.

Grunt

I really do hate them.

Every now and then it does me good to make my views on the cult known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES known. I didn't come to this view slowly or rashly, but over a period of some thirty years or more. When I think of the futures I have seen shredded, the hypocrites I have seen looking down their twisted noses from the bottom of a pit while they thought they were on a pedestal of righteousness, the children I have seen tortured over issues they needn't have faced, the couples I have seen turn on one another and break apart over this phoney "religion", the children I have seen turn on their parents, brothers and sisters, the selfish things I have seen charlatans posing as christians do, the ignorance of the bible I have seen expounded with the tones and knowing looks of superiority, the tears I have seen shed by caring puppet-people trying to serve God honestly but being forced to do uncaring things by the strings pulled in New York, well......

Have I mentioned I HATES'EM!!!!!!!!

I hates 'em, and I will till the day this cult dies. I hope it won't be long.

Grunt

P.S. I hates 'em

P.S. P.S. My pardon to J.R.Tolkein's Gollum for borrowing his phrase. It just fits so well.

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Dissing the JWs....

by ScoobySnax in

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i've been inactive for a few years now, and yet, despite all i read, i can't feel as you mostly all do.

i have a lot of happy memories of being "in the truth" (and i know how much some here hate that line) and fond memories of the meetings and assemblies, sure it was much easier to break away and live life like i am now,..... but well, thats just how i feel.

i can understand those that may leave for personal reasons, but not sure i'll ever understand some here who have such a hatred of anything jw related.

Grunt

I despise the Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization for the lies they tell, the heartbreak and destruction of families they cause and the innocent blood on their hands from all those who died for their lies about medical issues they didn't know crap about.

I would mortgage my house to buy a bulldozer if I could be allowed to use it to shove the bricks of that dark hole in Brooklyn down on itself or to run through the presses that print the twisted scriptures and lies that are luring more people and keeping present victims in thrall. My own little fantasy used to be kicking the door down on a GB meeting and stepping in with a baseball bat to settle some old scores. Now I am more mature and am content that the bastards are having to live out the proof of their lies and die with no children to visit them or with alienated children. Freddie Franz, you self-righteous SumBitch, I'm glad you lived so long and got to see that in fact it WAS unreasonable to assume you knew the mind of God and that the seventh creative day's last thousand years, the millenium, would begin in the fall of 1975. It was even more wrong for you to print the vain lie and assume the role of prophet, causing people to sell homes and suffer in poverty, but I doubt you ever could see that, you conceited, childless peice of dung. I am glad you are back to dirt, you never rose far above it.

Thanks for allowing me to vent. Have I mentioned I HATE the CULT known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES??? I do, with a purple passion. I confront them and tell them so at every opportunity, but I do it kindly as the poor benighted heathern don't know any better. They are the sheared sheep of this dark group. Most don't really know what they believe. As they think they know everything they believe this makes them easy targets.

Grunt

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Bin Laden - Do you think he's right after all?

by Iron Eagle in

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hey folks .

im not trying to offend anybody , im just trying to find out what you guys really think about bin laden.

of course there are the obvious things to count against him ;- the fact that he probably murdered thousands of people on september 11th , and maybe even before then.

Grunt

I am sorry if I seem judgemental. I am not in a position to judge anything except my own behavior which rarely comes up to the standards I would like to see. I am friendly to the only homosexual I really know, a lady coach that has had her life wrung out by her chosen pardner going with both other men and other women. She is such a sweet and understanding person and I don't think she would ever push herself or her views on the kids she coaches. She doesn't seem to have much to lean on in her relationship and not much of a future to look forward to. She is about 55 and the lady that lives with her some of the time about 45 and in no way tied to her. I would never try to hurt her feelings, shun her or treat her bad. I usually wind up joking with her about our jet skis and different things related to work. The only male homosexuals I know, I mentioned. Maybe there are a whole bunch of well-adjusted happy ones around that I just don't know or know about. I have a woman I love and have been married to for 34 years, we get happier every year I believe. Our only real stress was money while raising the kids and getting them through childhood illnesses and college and then the loss of our daughter to the cult. I hate to see anyone NOT have a close and long lasting relationship with a member of the opposite sex. It just works so well. I don't pretend to any right to judge anyone. I have enough to do just trying to be good to the people around me and make my passing through this world a source of good and not bad to those I affect.
As for things being better in the past, read any history book. Look up any time period other than ours and compare them to ours. Even in western nations you could have been sold or transported for debt. The death sentence for shop lifting was common. In places like Norway I believe I have read that old people were left out to die in the cold as were children born with defects. Life is easier and longer now than at any time in history, especially in western nations but also in the others. Smallpox, The Black Death, we might have something like that in the future, but AIDS doesn't touch them now and AIDS can be avoided by most people. No, things are great. People like to claim that the USA is a dangerous place using murder stats from cities but in fact in rural states like North Dakota or even Maine the rates are as good or better than most European nations. Life is sweet here, good in most places and better in almost all. What period of time do YOU look back to as having been better???

Grunt

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Bin Laden - Do you think he's right after all?

by Iron Eagle in

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hey folks .

im not trying to offend anybody , im just trying to find out what you guys really think about bin laden.

of course there are the obvious things to count against him ;- the fact that he probably murdered thousands of people on september 11th , and maybe even before then.

Grunt

First of all, I don't think the "West" is going "downhill." I think things are getting better, not worse. Not that long ago famine and plague were common all over the world, north, south, east and west. Not that long ago people were bought and sold all over the world. Not that long ago racism and class discrimination almost like the caste system were the accepted practices all over the world. Things are much better. Now slaves are only openly bought and sold in Africa, even in India the caste system is weaker than it was, plagues and famines are so uncommon as to be the objects of international help, most coming from the West it seems. No, things are much better.
As for homosexuality, I think it is sad. I think it causes the participants more pain and misery than many of them can bear and I think it is real unhealthy. To me, it is a sin, but I still believe in a creator and still believe in the Bible.. I don't hate homosexuals, I feel sorry for them. The ones I have known have had a lot to deal with, not the least of which were their own feelings of self-worth and confusion. We had one at work who was caught in a rest area bathroom, sad. Another in our extended system lost his job for inappropriate behavior to a minor.
Bin Laden. A rich boy murderer looking for meaning to his life and finding it in hate. Guilty of so much innocent blood. The change of government in Afghanistan is on his head, along with the loss of life. The deaths of the European's and American's along with a host of others of all backgrounds, are on his head. If you think of the bombing of the embassies in Africa and the poor blacks who bit it, the destruction of the twin towers and the mixed bag from all over the world who died, the bombing of the night club where so many Austrailians died, the massive numbers of Iraqi's who are about to die, well, he has been a poor fighter, a worse saviour and a Godawful person to have as a friend. I imagine a few prayers go up to Allah and a lot of curses from Afghanistan, Iraq and Cuba. Add my curse to the list.

Grunt

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Would you ban the Witnesses?

by Joker10 in

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if it were up to you, would you ban the jw's?

would you go that far?

Grunt

No. But I would require open books from them on the money. I would also hold them accountable for deaths incurred on their advice. Religious Malpractice sounds like a good policy to me!

Grunt

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Is JR Brown a liar?

by William Penwell in

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as on an earlier post, an interview with jr brown:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43356&site=3.

when jr was asked, is yours the only path to salvation?

Grunt

Hey, JR. is just following the directions of the Slave! They told him that most people weren't ENTITLED to the truth. So he lies, as programmed.

Remember this quote?

Insight book, vol. 2, page 244: "While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it. Jesus Christ counseled: "Do not give what is holy to dogs, neither throw your pearls before swine, that they may never trample them under their feet and turn around and rip you open." (Mt 7:6)"

Heck the Bible isn't even written to anybody on earth but Juniors little gods. Remember this one?

"Also, it is to the spirit-anointed Christians who will rule in that kingdom that most of the Christian Greek Scriptures is directed, including the promises of everlasting life." The Watchtower June 15, 1974 page 376 Serve with Eternity in View

They don't even have Christ as their mediator, I think old Freddie Franz used to put it something like, "The New Covenant isn't for just any Tom, Dick or HARRY! It's not some loose arrangement ANYBODY can be in!" Backed up by the cult's own little GREEN BIBLE rendering of 1 Tim.2:5,6

w79 11/15 Benefiting from "One Mediator Between God and Man" p. 2620 What, then, is Christs role in this program of salvation? Paul proceeds to say: "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men [not, all men], a man Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."1 Tim. 2:5, 6.

So, why should they bother to tell anyone but themselves the truth??? Really only need to tell a few of THEM the truth, Junior not included. Ha, so funny it almost makes you forget how sad it is that people we love still buy this crap.

Grunt

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Mandela on Bush and Blair

by Rado Vleugel in

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mandela sharply criticises bush and blair on iraq stance .

january 30, 2003 .

posted to the web january 30, 2003 .

Grunt

Foreword,
Thanks for a civilized response.

My points: First, we don't want to take their oil. Did we take Kuwait's???

We do want to keep people that hate us and are willing to help our enemies from getting the money from the oil. We will give it to a legitimate government along with a lot of aid.

Next, they have already brought this war to us. Not us to them. We would not be in Afghanistan, we would not be going into Iraq if the Twin Towers had not been hit, if the civilians of all nationalities these cowards killed had not been killed. We are not starting a war, we are pursuing those who attacked us and preventing another attack.

Finally, you have nothing to fear from the Arabs. Except poison and germs.

The "Mother of All Wars" Ha, remember that?

They were even surrendering to photographers! As an army they would make good girl scouts.

Threats from liars and blowhards mean little. The one thing they can do is stab us in the back as we allow them to enjoy the freedom of our country. They are effective human bombs about one in ten tries. Had they managed to poison a large number of British civilians with the ricin that would have been a GREAT victory to these fools.

Sympathy for these yellow dogs is sickening. Fear is unreasonable. We know where they live. They will never stand and fight. They will never stand and fight your son but might knife fight your daughter, as long as she doesn't have a knife and doesn't know they plan on fighting her.

If we go there and chase them around and slap all their relatives, then take their oil and give it to a legitimate government, they will be too busy running and too broke to do much. Look at Osama, that worm is keeping a pretty low profile for a would be "Martyr" isn't he? Probably using western technology to get his bladder drained. When he is sure he is dying soon anyway, he might stand up, I doubt it. If he does he will be slapped down, quick and hard. If UK or American forces had been the only troops allowed to surround him he wouldn't have gotten away.

Grunt

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Mandela on Bush and Blair

by Rado Vleugel in

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mandela sharply criticises bush and blair on iraq stance .

january 30, 2003 .

posted to the web january 30, 2003 .

Grunt

Foreword,
The U.S. wasn't the first to have WMD if you consider germ warfare and chemical warfare to be WMD. As for the money being just talk, I don't know if your country is giving anything, but the US gives plenty every year to a lot of people. If you are going to try and say they don't then you are just blowing more smoke and lies.
If you really want to talk about mass murder or point the finger at someone guilty killing innocents, check out Jordan, or Zimbabwe. See how many those countries killed of their own people. It might do you some good to read a little history. I know of no country that doesn't have a blemish in their history whether it is the Sepoy Mutiny or Norway's treatment of gypsies and native peoples. What we have to do is try and learn and improve, try to help, not hurt. That doesn't rule out self-defense. Killing people who have issued "fatwas" calling for your death and destruction and the people who give them the means to try and accomplish it comes under self-defense.

Grunt

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Mandela on Bush and Blair

by Rado Vleugel in

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mandela sharply criticises bush and blair on iraq stance .

january 30, 2003 .

posted to the web january 30, 2003 .

Grunt

Like many people Mandela finds it easier to be critical of the USA than to do anything with any real integrity. Like help his neighbor, Zimbabwe. They are trucking immigrants back to repression and starvation every day while accusing US of bad motives in Iraq? What a joke.
The USA will not keep the oil fields of Iraq. It will try to prevent the profits from those fields being spent to poison or blow up our people. We will not make a profit on this war, our boys that are over there will not get rich. They will make the place a better place to live and they will help get rid of people that want to kill us or at least keep they them dodging.

Meanwhile we will continue to send food and money to Africa. Even if the fat leaders refuse it to their starving people.

For anyone to condemn the USA while 7,000,000 in Zimbabwe alone are facing famine due to a black racist president, would be amusing if not so sad. While I hope many lives are saved by my tax dollars being used to fight AIDS in Africa, I can't help but wish they were being spent on people who wouldn't then be starved or enslaved by other Africans. Or used to buy private jets for their leaders.
If Mr. Mandela would do more to help the blacks starving next door I would listen more carefully to his two-faced political mouthings. As for our aid to fight AIDS in places where they deny so much about AIDS, I would like to see the money spent on zero energy homes for Americans, especially poor Americans which we have too many of.

Grunt

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Wepons Of Mass Destruction Hanbook

by ThiChi in

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wepons of mass destruction handbook.

everything you wanted to know about weapons of mass destruction but were afraid to ask!

biological warfare

Grunt

Emiliano,
Do you just like to make statements without proof? Maybe you are marginalized somehow and blame the USA for it? What acts of "terror" are you speaking about??? What country do you see as being a "good" country that has never been guilty of any acts of terror??? Have you read any of the "fatwas" the Islamists have written calling for the death of men, women and children of western nations, especially the USA? Can you avoid seeing these so called "warriors" as cowards??? The only way they can fight and kill any Americans seems to be by pretending to be passengers or students. Their most effective method of combat is to strap demolitoins to their body and blow themselves up in a rest. or on a bus. These "brave" men only do because they think they are going to get all kinds of rewards, which just makes them gullible fools as well as cowards who only dare fight women, chiildren and the unsuspecting. Our only fear of these people comes from the possibility that they might SNEAK somewhere and use poison or disease. What a pathetic bunch. To light some explosive shoes on an airline, to spread some ricin in England, these are their goals.
On the other hand now women in Afghanistan are driving again and living a real life of sorts again. I think we did real well in Afghanistan. The only mistake we made was trusting someone other than ourselves to hem in Bin Laden. Over there they call it surrounded when they shut up three sides of a square. If they shut up all four sides it would make for a worse fight and a lot smaller bribe. Had it been Kilo Company, 3rd Bn. 3rd Marines holding the sack shut we'd have his ass. He claimed he wanted to be a Martyr, Ha, guess he changed his mind. As I write this the army is hounding a little pack of fanatics who fired on US troops (they are poor shots and rarely hit anyone unless they can pretend they need directions or help and get them up close with their guard down like the Marine they managed to shoot, of course the other Marines heard the shots and killed them at their next stop) dropping 2000 lb. bombs on them, I think eighteen of them have been killed as they scurry around in the rocks hunting a hole. Are you under the impression that eighty men hiding in holes in remote mountains is a victory of some kind??? They would rather be back on the soccer fields of the city using it as an execution site, or on the street corners whipping women, but instead the Americans they swore were too cowardly to ever set foot on their land, the ones they swore they would defeat as they did the Russians, are in town with the allies feeding people, starting schools, supporting a democracy and trying to undo some of the damage these running dogs did. The western soldiers who are there risking their lives don't do it for any promises of "Paradise."

Wake up. Read a history book. If you want to read about some wasted lives look up Cambodia, or Rwanda, Big Daddy Amin, Pol Pot, or maybe the Sudan. Slaves are still bought and sold there by Arabs or Arab wannabees.

Grunt