wrong!
this jw's conscience is getting to him.
it's a no-no to create midis of "kingdom melodies" he says, so he will teach you how to sing instead.
then these people are in great doo-doo maybe... http://members.tripod.com/~purplemidi/Kmelodies.html please let me know if this doesn't work. One of my favorite sites since my former JW days. If Witnesses would just confine themselves to beautiful works of love like this, these would number 20 million easy. <sigh>
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
i am new here trying to figure my way around...... i would appreciate it if you could say which of these fits you..... 1. still a jw.
2. if you dont agree with the jw doctrines any longer do you belong to another religious organization now?
3. are still religious and have no religious affiliation.
I am spiritual (I try to be) with no religious affiliation (successfully so far) and I wish such a choice was included.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
after posting on the maximus nourishment for the spirit thread about elaine pagel's "the origin of satan" and "adam, eve, and the serpent," i check my mail and find the watchtower for august 15, and a qfr (whole page) answering the question, "for how long a period of time did job suffer.".
they say "job's suffering and its resolution may have occurred within a few months, perhaps less than a year.
" blah, blah, tribulation momentary and light, blah, blah, christ will himself finish your training.
I have the Jay P Green Sr 1978 Interlinear Translation. And a day came when..Satan went before God, And a day came when...Job lost his belongings. Again a day came...when Satan went before Jehovah again. And Satan went out from before...jehovah and he struck Job. That's how it is worded here.
i am just going to play devil's advocate here for a second since i need help reasoning something out again.
i think i have the answer, but i just need to do this outloud and hear some responses to make sure i am clear on this particular issue.. i remember once, when i first came across a lengthy write-up on the faulty reasoning the wts used to come up with the whole 1914 thing, i was having dinner with an older bro who, at the time, was a very close friend of mine.
i asked him directly just how valid the date was and if what i was reading on the internet had any credibility.
Why don't they just say 'oops, we were wrong, sorry?" Because the 'True' religion wouldn't be wrong, it's hard to find a scriptural example if there even is any. The closest I could find to 'misunderstanding' prophecy was Sarah, when she was told she would have a child at like 90 years of age. She handed her maidservant over to Abraham (who didn't protest much if at all) and seemed to feel that was what was meant. She was corrected in very short order and that was the end of it. Or rather the beginning (of Isaac)! And I suppose the first-century Christians really wanted the end to come as soon as possible, (sound familiar) but they didn't make a whole big bunch o'money from it, I am sure. Business is business after all.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
I be from Southern California, along with some others on this board. It rained today yoohoo...
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
i have been reading post after post since january, (when my husband and i quit going to the meetings), just now getting up the nerve to say anything.
you people scare me!!!
there are some intense messages on here.
You helped make the point that is brought up a lot on this board; the org is chasing away its best and brightest. I am df'd and I have family still 'inside' and I know how hard it can be. One of the tricks is to never say anything bad about the org. In fact, I kept telling one of my 'weaker' relatives how much I really enjoyed Pastor Russels's writings, what a kind grandfatherly person he seemed like, etc etc, and this relative wound up reading one of his books and now only sporadically attends meetings. Honey does go farther than vinegar. Whatever you do, enjoy your wonderful little family. And welcome to LIFE.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
i was doing a search on archibald d. russell and this is what i came upon:.
< http://www.newnetizen.com/globalelite/bloodlines/russellbloodline.htm.
any merit here?
Are we absolutely sure the Society itself isn't putting out some of this stuff?
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
wrobel, johannes [email protected].
> -----original message-----.
> from: wrobel, johannes < [email protected]>.
Somebody is up late.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?
for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .
thanks.
Let's see, I was 'won over' at age 12 by my cousins, who said they had all these marriage problems and now that they were JW's all their problems had been resolved. The wife and two of the three children are not Witnesses as far as I know. They were very nice people, actually. I married when I turned 16 to another Witness, who was 21, he had been 'brought over' by his mother who had been 'brought over' by a friend at work I believe. Neither she nor 2 of the 3 children, including my then husband are any longer active Witnesses. Of our four children, only one is an active JW although not strong in the 'Truth' as far as I can see. She is my oldest. I think she is aware of the seven failed prophecies, and the 'scripturalness' of the blood issue and the shunning issue and others, but she will not unassimilate because she is married to a second generation Witness whose mother/father brought the kids all 'over' due a neighbor I believe. ISN'T FAMILY WONDERFUL!!!!!!
please forgive the mixed metaphor.
nevertheless, it summarizes.
a convention talk on "the organization isn't fading away!"..
I read a book (yeah,please don't laugh!) that was written in the mid-seventies. It is called 'Jehovah's Witnesses and Prophetic Speculation'. I don't remember the author but I believe he is well known even today. The point is made in this book that the average milleniaist/apocalyptic (spelling..) religion dies afters its third failed prophecy. The JW's are now on their fifth failed prophecy at least. Perhaps this is finally the end. As for other religions...I would love to find out also. I've always thought of the 'major' religions as businesses, so why should their fail rate be any worse than any other big money-making org.
By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.
