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  About Bill Bowen

  by Nordic in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the campaign bill bowen have startet for the sake of little children abused is so brave.

  now the children have a voice to speak on their behalf.

  i don't think you can truly understand what i am talking about if not are a victim of child abuse.

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  The Real Truth About Raymond V. Franz Revealed!

  by bjc2012 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.

  that is all carl wanted.

  yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.

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  Ray and Bill

  by larc in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i would not have posted this, but the subject just doesn't go away.

  i would like to comment on the differences in the two men.

  first of all, they come from different eras.

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  Bill Bowen's attack on Ray Franz

  by COJ in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  bill bowens attack on ray franz: .

  i very seldom find time for checking the discussions going on at various debate sites, and wasnt aware of bill bowens statements about ray franz in his original post of oct. 9, 2002 at 7:26 (now evidently altered), until a friend quite recently sent my a copy of it.

  i was not only surprised but was shocked at his statements.

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  The real issue

  by kelsey007 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the way i see it is that mr bowen brought himself to the fore in this program.

  he made a public spectacle of himself.

  in doing so he has naturally, in a free society, opened himself up to critism.

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  So, "Is Ray Franz GREAT or What???"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just read amazing's thread on ray franz' response.

  the question was raised regarding the so-called "sarcasm" that bill bowen expressed on a number of threads and posts about ray franz being "great or what".

  if bill bowen is simply trying to make "peace", we are left to feel that we should just dismiss any statements that were made by "silentlambs" and let bygones be bygones.

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  Stop Taking Bill's or Ray's Side!

  by Derrick in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gsark wrote:.

  if they hold ray franz responsible in some way then i am on their side one hundred percent.. .

  the very implication behind this comment is chilling to me.

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  The two things they did to me.

  by joelbear in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am an injured man because they did things to my mind and to my soul.

  i can't make it through the day without some kind of medication to keep me going.

  its getting worse with age not better.. first they warped my life plan.

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  Post by Ray Franz

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ray franz requested that i post the following comments written by him:

  as has been stated already, the presentation made from the silent lambs source in connection with the child abuse issue completely misrepresents my position.

  when i spoke by phone recently with the author of that presentation, and pointed out that i had never expressed the views presented, his comment was that from his previous conversation with me (held some months earlier) he "got the impression that i was not on the same wave length" with him.

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  You same people are always here?

  by breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do all you people do?

  i come to this site and you guys are always here..reassuring i suppose, but still .

  are you doing this at work??

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