Hey unclebruce: I e-mailed you for some refrences on your statements about legend vs. the bible and decided to see if you would post them here. I would like to see some apologetics on both sides.
Posts by gumby
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18Greek heroes & the nephalim
by Simon incan anyone remember this being in print or hearing the same thing .... i remember more than one talk where the suggestion was made that the larger-than-life greek heroes were the same nephalim or "mighty ones of old" mentioned in the bible.. does anyone else remember this?
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Revelation 21:3,4 For Heretics
by Farkel indubs just love revelation 21:3,4. it is almost their mantra.
it bespeaks "hope" in dubland.
they interpret it this way:.
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gumby
The Anointed NEVER deceived any of you.
Do you have a clue as to what is taught by your org. dipshit?
The gb are part of the annointed that gives you your salmanilla food.
The rest of the annointed are not allowed to give their say.
Perhaps you could start a splinter group and have all the old annointed farts start writing the literature for those of you who wish to follow them. -
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This Bible Not Original
by FreePeace inhere is an interesting article by a local columnist that underscores the invalidity of the christian religion as god's chosen one.
it also casts serious doubt on the bible as well as jesus' originality.
this is really nothing new to those of us who have researched it.. http://www.sun-herald.com/newsarchive2/122301/cl2.htm?date=122301&story=cl2.htm.
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gumby
FreePeace....Where can you find out the dates of the various books of beliefs you posted?A website would be preferred for ease of finding.
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Dubs can see lord of rings,not harry potter
by gumby ininteresting how the witnesess once again show a double set of standards with the watching of these two movies.
harry potter is a definate no no, but watching lord of the rings is ok.. both movies have wizards.
anyone noticed this?
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Nytelecom1: ...if it bothers the
conscience of one JW it must be wathchtower policy
Actually in all fairness to the dubs....other christian faiths have the same problem. Snickering to others how bro/sis went to see one of the mentioned movies.
I however do think the dubs are a little more extreme than others in a case like this.
The conscience you mentioned here is strongly developed by the society. With other churches it is the pastor and his associates that can influence the individual.
Each one should be convinced IN HIS OWN MIND as the bible says.
Not someone elses mind.
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Dubs can see lord of rings,not harry potter
by gumby ininteresting how the witnesess once again show a double set of standards with the watching of these two movies.
harry potter is a definate no no, but watching lord of the rings is ok.. both movies have wizards.
anyone noticed this?
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UNITY THEY SAY!!!! What unity is there when some areas or congregations ok one thing and another area or congregation looks down on it.
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DIM's sister gets busted!
by DIM init seems my mom was snooping around my sisters room and happened to come across her diary.
my sister is 14 years old and unbaptized.
my mom decided to read this diary.
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Hey Dim. Sorry for your situation. Your mother should have followed the bibles advice and not ran to the elders. The bible says if your brother commits a sin....go to your brother...if he listens...you gain your brother. She did as all dubs do....go tell on them!
She broke a bond with your sis that will be remembered by your sis forever.How would your mom feel if your sis would have peeked at her private things? She would be in trouble.
Hope all turns out well for you and that you keep a christlike attitude about it all. -
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Harry Potter vs. The Wizard of Oz
by LDH inperhaps some here would like to expound on why it is ok for witness kids to watch the classic film "wizard of oz" but harry potter is out?.
aren't the two the same thing?
a fantasy about another realm?
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gumby
My daughter and son in law won't even allow their two kids to see the
Wizard of Oz because of the witch. However this weekend they are all going to see Lord of the Rings.
No wonder Jw's grow up more disfunctional than the average kids.
How confused they must get over issues like this. -
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Dubs can see lord of rings,not harry potter
by gumby ininteresting how the witnesess once again show a double set of standards with the watching of these two movies.
harry potter is a definate no no, but watching lord of the rings is ok.. both movies have wizards.
anyone noticed this?
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Interesting how the witnesess once again show a double set of standards with the watching of these two movies. Harry Potter is a definate no no, but watching Lord of the Rings is ok.
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JFR Death Certificate Has a New Link
by Farkel ini noticed that a post of mine from june linking to jfr's death certificate popped up on the board again.
i deleted the original link, but i've put up a new one here:.
http://farkel.0catch.com/jfrdeath.html.
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gumby
Sounds like all that vodka caused da judge some pee pee and poo poo problems!
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Did Crisis of Conscience damage you?
by Mulan init has been suggested, by a man we know, that those who read crisis of conscience, are left with a feeling of despair and are "cast adrift" after reading it.
it is his opinion that the book shouldn't have been written, because it does harm to people.
i do not agree, and would like to hear from anyone who has an opinion to share, so i can print all this out and show it to him.. comments, everyone, please????
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Quote mulan: "Those who read Crisis of Conscience, are left with a feeling of despair and are "cast adrift" after reading it."
I feel that is completely true of all who were true dubs.
By true I mean all who really knew what the organisation taught and really believed it.....WHY?
Your entire world is shattered as you finally realize that what you have come to believe about your future,your present life,and what it all means must leaves you with a blank.
I am specifaclly talking about when you first realize it's not Gods org. I was one lost puppy.
However later in the book Ray gives an enlightening perspective on what the bibles true message is, and was later confirmed by me looking into what the bible really has to say apart from anyones opinion.
I have nothing but GOOD to say about the great work Ray did in exposing falsehood to thousands who have been freed from it.