Fred is a policy breaker or he wouldn't be here. I am glad he is.
Posts by gumby
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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Do animals go to heaven?
by master chief ingood question do animals go to heaven?
i ask this because jws say to me they dont,only humans go to heaven they say "that sounds like crap to me" surely animals are precious to god as well as humans and think at least animals dont use humans to test on!!
!and where does the bible say that animals dont get eternal life
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gumby
Gravedancer: "Since god is in your imagination"
Did he say he thinks this thought is all in his head......or is that your idea?
Perhaps he believes as many of us do. Maybe your not here but you only imagine it's real.... same difference. -
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A Beautiful Mind
by speechless in"a beautiful mind".
what a great movie!
(a somewhat true story of the life of john forbes nash, mathematician, princeton).
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gumby
Best movie I have seen in a long time! It is one of those movies you can't say anything about or you will give away a part of it.
It will make you appreciate something after you see it......I'll say that. Go see it!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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gumby
Puffsrule: Sounds to me like "The Truth" is her security blanket.
She is one of those who would rather not know any smut on the Org.
For her to find they are not the truth would scare her.These type of people are convinced christendom is so far out there that this is the closest thing to perfect even though they could be wrong in some areas.
It's irritating when your hands are tied as yours seem to be in this matter. If she will listen.....keep trying... if it gets you anywhere.
I hope for the best for you. -
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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gumby
Puffsrule: She keeps insisting that no smart JW would go to the elders on a matter regarding anything but spiritual health or a ride to the congregation.
How informed is she on JW policy? Has she seen the Elders manuals, all the watchtower quotes on what to do if you suspect such.
To not go to the elders would bring her trouble once they found out she bypassed them. (that goes for Fred Hall too)
Sounds as though she does not understand true Jw policy or she dosen't care.That's the problem. Many say they do what they feel is right regardless of what the society says which goes entirally agaist the belief that they should follow the SLAVE directed by Jehovah.
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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gumby
Quote: The program will serve as good input to those who are undecided about the JW's, whether they are inside or out. For some, it will be the straw that breaks their camel's back, preventing them from getting further involved with a harmful organization
Well put! I agree.
The sad thing is... I feel this will not do the damage we are all expecting, and when it is over we will all say..."if this didn't do it...what will"
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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gumby
Well freddie...if that happens....it dosen't change the society's screwed up policy on HOW TO HANDLE the situation does it?
Talk about assholes and liars....do you feel their policy is good in this matter?
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Blood Issue and Hypocrisy
by teenyuck ini have told a couple of people on the board, thru e-mail, who i am, who my mother and family are.
i hope what i am about to post will not get my mother in trouble.
my mother met a man about 24 years ago.
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gumby
"the doctors made the decision, so it did not bother her at all."
Of course it didn't bother her! Everytime the dubs aren't bothered by something that is contrary to the society's beliefs proves they aren't in agreement with that particular belief in the first place.Suppose the society changed their policy on how to view those who leave the org. Suppose they said you can now treat these ones as a worldly person. Don't you think all dubs would jump for joy as they could now see relatives and friends who are df'ed?
Yes they would! Why? because they don't swallow the shunning thing in the first place in the way the society sees it. -
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when Dateline airs....then what??
by gumby inwhen dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the jw who sees it?
will this cause any significant stir amongst them?
will this blow over as the voting issue did?.
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gumby
When Dateline airs the pedophile segment....what will be the mindset of the JW who sees it? Will this cause any significant stir amongst them? Will this blow over as the Voting issue did?
Will the program, in a few weeks, be forgotten by the average dub?
Or!!! Will there be many who leave over it? -
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Increasing Flashes of "Light"
by Pureheart inthis information was taken fron the 1995 wt.
increasing flashes of light.
particularly since 1919 have jehovahs servants been blessed with increasing flashes of light.
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gumby
Answer, to where did "Flashes of light" come from.
Fred franz just loved to kick back in his swivel chair and down 'shrooms'. Then when the drug started to take effect he would write when the light would flash.He really got a hold of some bad shrooms when he wrote the Revelation Book.
He then would spike the other boys coffee and take what he had written to them to be edited.
They would all laugh and say...."if it's good with you Fred, it's good with us.....let's vote just for the hell of it."