Posts by Vincent

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I got shunned at Wal-Mart

by loosie in

this is actually hilarious to me.

i am not df'd or da'd.

i just haven't gone for 3 years.. this woman (sister) works at my daughters school.

Vincent

i belive I saw a JW after dr appiontment, he looked familar but an utter idiot, probley heading for the spiritualist church or dr

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I got shunned at Wal-Mart

by loosie in

this is actually hilarious to me.

i am not df'd or da'd.

i just haven't gone for 3 years.. this woman (sister) works at my daughters school.

Vincent

If I was shunned, I probley would tell them to f-off and get a life and be very harsh on them as I am a very harsh person. They are nothing but a bunch of Sados.

I have come accross 1 of the elders but I bashed his trolly out of my way when I was food shopping, I didnt care if I hurt him. As I bashed it head on, I did it quite hard, well that is for being in the way mainly probley stress after work. At that time I forgotten who he was until it came to my head at home after shopping.

How I really bashed him, I have a habbit of walking fast with the trolly, and pull me self off the floor and let it take me but dont have good breaks on my shoes so I slide, as I cant stand being in a supermarket and want to get home after work. Should really teach me for doing that again.

It was doing bit like what I used to do at my old work where I used a heavy garbage trolly to slide me down the hill in winter few years back.

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One thing that puzzled me

by Vincent in

this has puzzled me as reading about a critical ill father and blood transfusion refusal by a stupied wife that was a jw, when you become more serious in this cult it seems to play havoc on the emotions.

when i used to be a bible student.

i was giving off negative emotions (sadness, crying at certain things like seeing violence).

Vincent

Thanks for the replies, That will be beared in mind to warn off my friends about this cult if they think of joining.

Even my girlfriend and someone at work saw me very stressed with black eyes and etc. After I left over the Emma Gough's death, I was bothered by 2 witnesses, I got extremely angry with them to use violence but luckly I didn't this roughly lasted over a couple of months as the teaching was wearing away. I was looking up a lot of information about disfellowshipping at the time and watching the secrets of JW

I have a pen friend who was an EX JW, she was like a counseller by e-mail that also helped me a lot

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One thing that puzzled me

by Vincent in

this has puzzled me as reading about a critical ill father and blood transfusion refusal by a stupied wife that was a jw, when you become more serious in this cult it seems to play havoc on the emotions.

when i used to be a bible student.

i was giving off negative emotions (sadness, crying at certain things like seeing violence).

Vincent

Hi All

This has puzzled me as reading about a critical ill father and blood transfusion refusal by a stupied wife that was a JW, when you become more serious in this cult it seems to play havoc on the emotions. When I used to be a bible student. I was giving off negative emotions (sadness, crying at certain things like seeing violence).

While I was in the cult I used to end up in tears for no reasons or go emotional.

Now I left them after Emma Gough's death even that set me off hearing it and seeing it. Now when you look at me after left them for few months now I am back to normal, I have tried to tell elderes that knocked on me that too.

Does the brain washing cause a lot of emotional sensitiviy as I had made an elder cry too by talking about looking after my girlfriend.

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I had a Jehovah's Witness at my door this morning

by Vincent in

i had a jehovah's witness knocking on my door on 31/05/08 it was very happy female, i could of have shouted at her but i was very close going that way as my legs were shaking a little bit like jelly as i was talking to the jehovah's witness finding polite way of shooing her away.

i have used the word cult to them but they denied it.

i said about emma gough but they said its because she wasn't looked after.

Vincent

Hi all I had a Jehovah's witness knocking on my door on 31/05/08 it was very happy female, I could of have shouted at her but I was very close going that way as my legs were shaking a little bit like Jelly as I was talking to the Jehovah's Witness finding polite way of shooing her away. I have used the word Cult to them but they denied it. I said about Emma Gough but they said its because she wasn't looked after. I mentioned about 1 of the witnesses rape they denied that the elders are witnesses who did that to her and disfellowshipped her so the elders gotten away with the offence, the lady said she probley wasnt a Jehovah's Witness. Main thing I controlled my Anger if she came earlier in the year I probley would of bitten her head off.

The leaflet she gave to me was shredded as that can brain wash too. Vincent

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Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Are Truly Happy?

by StAnn in

i've been wondering about this a lot lately.

when i was a jw, i was always miserable because i was so busy trying to keep up with everyone else, i.e., field service hours, dressing appropriately, having the right attitude, feeling guilty about desiring things not approved by the wts, such as an education.

my own experience as a jw was so filled with unhappiness that it never occurred to me that anybody in the wts could actually be happy and have a joyful life.

Vincent

Hi All My response to this question, Being an ex bible student for 7 months, I was in a very depressed way. Anyone can make a JW cry through a normal conversation. Even if they see violence can set them off on to a depressed way or if people make fun of them or the religion as this is what I did experience in the past also made me go tearful at work. Basically they have very sensitive emotions. My opinions to this questions They are truly unhappy but are hiding it. If a witness was to be disfellowshipped or disassociate this can bring on a post cult trauma syndrome and a nervous breakdown which can lead to a lot of mental problems in the witnesses. From my experience in a normal conversation about sex and pornography as I was involved with the cult I was not allowing to be talked about in my presence where I cut it out of life. The person next to me was giving me a lecture about this type of thing is harmless and needs to be done when it comes to masterbation, where I was refusing this talk I went very tearful just talking about this sort of thing. Being alone cutting away from non-cult members made me cry for no reasons ended up writing the documents on what is going on and get it out of the system as there was something bothering me. When I did leave the watchtower society after hearing of Emma Gough who is A JW mother of twins that died in 2007 for refusing blood which also upset me too and made me angry which got me to pull out my friend from the cult but he stayed. My friend knew or seen how shocked I was at this time. After all the bothering from the witnesses cos I didnt want anymore do with them nearly made me go very violent towards them that is when I did see a counseller. Hence they are not allowed to knock on my door again or I will report them to the police for harrassment or have a go at them with a few swear words. They are not happy even though they seem or look happy.

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JWs at the door

by HB in

yesterday, my 23 year old son mark was the only one in our house and was just drying off after a shower when the front doorbell rang.

he was expecting a friend to arrive, so he pulled on a pair of underpants and went to open the door and let his friend in, only to find two sweet-looking, demurely dressed middle aged jw ladies on the doorstep holding magazines.

mark was not particularly embarrassed, but the ladies were visibly taken aback by his appearance and were speechless for a couple of seconds.

Vincent

Hi there to all, That was good way to show off ur body to the girls pity they cant go with a non-jw. If the JW comes and comes again pesturing u with religion I would swear at them. In Fact the JW are not allowed to knock on my door as going through a post cult trauma syndrome made me very short tempered towards them. Even Jokes of someone saying the JW were asking after you and want you back still gets me short tempered with them. I wish I did what you did with the body to the mormons I bumped in to on way to the spiritualist church they were lovely ladies in their 20's.

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My Beliefs on Spirtualism

by Vincent in

it was suggested by someone to share my beliefs on spirtualism ever since i left the jw i no longer believe what the bible says.

however i don't do things like the occult or use a ouija board.

from the age of 11 i was interested in spiritualism through my brother who practiced out of body experiences, a lot of people have to see it to belive it really as many religions like the jehovah's witnesses says it is all work of satan aka lucifer, fraud or hoax.

Vincent

Hey to all Thanks for the reply, 1 thing that was very freaky in a spiritualist church, I had an argument with my girlfriend. The medium came to us, and said who has been in a argument, I dearnt to say I was very suprised but some 1 sat next to me also been in an argument so I left it to him. I do a lot of spiritual development and do read a lot of books on the Spirtual or psychic development and of course we all do perform occult by dreaming which I was puzzled with as we all do it, and occult that I would attempt any except the Ouija Board. I just Belive there is a god and what the bible says is some true and some man made like the devil or lucifer I think is man made. It is very strange how would a excortism (remove deamons) is classed as Occult and same goes to preconigtion I found spirtualism very interesting and I find it very less stressful.

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My Beliefs on Spirtualism

by Vincent in

it was suggested by someone to share my beliefs on spirtualism ever since i left the jw i no longer believe what the bible says.

however i don't do things like the occult or use a ouija board.

from the age of 11 i was interested in spiritualism through my brother who practiced out of body experiences, a lot of people have to see it to belive it really as many religions like the jehovah's witnesses says it is all work of satan aka lucifer, fraud or hoax.

Vincent

Thanks for that diamondblue1974. I didn't relise other things you mentioned there was classed as the occult. I must thought it just was only the ouija board that was classed as the occult which I don't do. So put it bluntly I do practice some of the occult. I am always reading or seeing someone's Aura and doing psychic development through spiritual Awareness. I do divenation with Tarot and Angel cards, Tarot can get negative from negative energy or give u a positive reading if you think positive. Answer to your question as well digderidoo, As you was asking if the spirtualist church was a bit cultish, I go there and not tell anyone my history or what I do. It comes out of the mouth of the medium as my 1st mesg was very accurate. How I went there was through my girlfriend just before I left the JW and loved it as it was my sort of thing that I did from 11 years old. My family will know my spiritualism in my life very well so I never really see a wrong or cult in a spiritualist church. To be honest after leaving the JW I had in mind that other religion is just to control people or as a scare tactics one of my friend who goes to a chrisitan church who just came out of the JW too from getting told off for not taking it seriously calls me a born again atheist. And Terry thanks for organising my post, How do u go about making Paragragh spaced out as I have no clue on doing so if u or anyone knows can they send me a messsage.

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My Beliefs on Spirtualism

by Vincent in

it was suggested by someone to share my beliefs on spirtualism ever since i left the jw i no longer believe what the bible says.

however i don't do things like the occult or use a ouija board.

from the age of 11 i was interested in spiritualism through my brother who practiced out of body experiences, a lot of people have to see it to belive it really as many religions like the jehovah's witnesses says it is all work of satan aka lucifer, fraud or hoax.

Vincent

Hi All

It was suggested by someone to share my beliefs on spirtualism ever since I left the JW I no longer believe what the bible says. However I don't do things like The Occult or use a ouija board.

From the age of 11 I was interested in spiritualism through my brother who practiced out of body experiences, a lot of people have to see it to belive it really as many religions like the Jehovah's Witnesses says it is all work of satan aka Lucifer, fraud or hoax. Before I got mixed in the JW cult I was able to see people's auras (Energy shield around a person or object). My 1st time I heard of a spiritualist church was last year even though I am 28 years old. Just never heard of a spiritualist church. Again a lot of religion will say going there is worshipping satan as I don't believe there is satan. As with the fraud and hoax, I think that may be do with the people who been brain washed in the past to belive in the bible now made an issue of it all on the news and the internet. I know a lot of religions will say this is all evil. I dont think it is personally if we have these thoughts just before you really know

The services starts off with a prayer then hymn, then it goes on to the psychic medium(human telephone to talk from dead to living) which she/he picks a person out and reads them depending on the medium he or she can be very accurate with what they say from the dead to you. Also the church does provide healing, however if you have been in the strict religion like JW's you may get very nervous or anxious when recieving the healing.

On a thursday we do have a Spiritual awarness classes where you can become more senstive to the spirit and learn how u feel depending what is done in the class. This is mainly for those who wants to become healers or mediums.

I belive in divination as well, where you can use either Angel Cards or tarot cards I have both at home, I do also use a dowser which is a crystal hanging on a chain. To find a presence of a spirit by letting the crystal move in a wider or faster circle which generally means yes. Same if you ask it yes/no questions. Hold it over a picture it will have a reaction. You don't move your hand either.

Also I defently do belive in preconigtion or premonitions as I had many of these in my life especially thinking of my health condition and practically just keep seeing something resembled a brain tumour six years before I was diagnosed but I dismissed the thought as a worry but it was correct. Another precognition I was worrying about my girlfriend and was thinking she was in trouble, so I said to my chef I am going to see my girlfriend streight after work, after I finished work my girlfriend called me and was in tears asking me can I come strieght to her. I got to her, she was in the corner of the lounge crying because she thought she going to die. The last out of my lots of these was I was at work throwing out rubbish, my phone rang in the kitchen I was outside and kept having thoughts of my chef saying to me your phone had rang loud and clear, I walked in to the kitchen he said exactly what I just wrote I just said I know thanks and took the phone.