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  The Crime that is never punished

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  gluttony is listed among the bible's "shunnable" crimes in the christian congregation.. greed is a dandy one, too.. .

  1 cor 5:11-13 says,(nwt).

  for what do i have to do with judging those outside?

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  wobble

  In the Congo I grew up in, and left in 1970, there was a sister who was effing HUGE, she used to leave the mid-week evening meeting as the "Amen"still rang in the air to go get her humongous portion of fish and chips, if a car blocked her in, she was prepared to knock it out of the way!

  She got bigger still, got diabetes, had bits amputated etc.

  She is still, I can't say in good standing, she had a foot off !, but she is still a "sister". I do think she had an eating disorder that was never treated, but I don't think the Elders or mature sisters ever tried to help.

  They just love an easy DFing, caught with your trousers down ? you're DF'd sonny! don't believe it's God's Org? You're DF'd sonny.

  If it gets a bit complicated, like they might have to allow for the fact you are mentally unstable, and then they might actually have to give you some active help, they don't want to know.
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  "don't let people stumble you"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that's my wife's canned "encouragement" for me lately.

  odd, i haven't named any people that have caused me any distress lately.

  if anything, it's the organization itself, specifically the business end of it, that bothers me.. the legal posturing as concerns individual congregations actions in matters that could escalate into courtroom matters,.

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  wobble

  Several well meaning Dubs I spoke to after leaving came out with the "we musn't be stumbled by men" crap 'coz they thought that must be why I left, look you thicky JW's, if I put up with them for 58 years it ain't hardly gonna be one or two A-hole JDubs that makes me go.

  I didn't put it like that, but they don't think do they? I made it plain it was not for that reason , which as I was leading a moral life and hadn't left to become a transexual or something, it only left Doctrine as the reason.

  Funny, all these custodians of the "truth" did not try to show me where they were right and my assesment of their doctrines as crap was wrong, I wonder why ?
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  "We Bring Them In The Front Door, Only To Have The Angels Throw Them Out The Back Door!A"

  by AvocadoJake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  what do you make of this statement made by the elderette in her comment this week?

  she is refering to the weak ones in the halls.

  this is not an uncommon statement made by the pious ones..

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  wobble

  The WT never has cared about the huge number that leave. All they care about is keeping the $$$ an£££'s etc rolling in.

  They try to keep as many as they can in by mind controlled fear. But if some leg it, just drag some more in.

  And this judgmental "sister" has the typical attitude of cult members, the people that are leaving have tried it, lived it, examined it and found it wanting, but according to her and her ilk, there is nothing wrong with the cult, it is the ones who leave who are at fault in some way.
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  Me at the Circuit Assembly Today

  by ranmac in

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  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsmabta4sxi&feature=related.

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  wobble

  Did you say "DONE!" and walk out Ranmac ?

  I do hope so.
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  How Will The WTS Society Look In The Year 2030? How Will They Explain Why The Generation Is Now 116 Years Old?

  by AvocadoJake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  imagine you are here in the year 2030 and nothing has happened?

  how will field service be carried out?

  will meetings still be at kingdom halls or will halls be used via skype?

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  wobble

  The Governing Body of today are not so young, how many of them will be around then ? how many of the puppet masters who pull their strings?

  The GB of the day by then may be a bit more savvy and will probably get a bit of excitement going for 2034 as being 120 years after 1914, they will know this is BS too of course, as they know 1914 is BS, so they won't have anything directly in print, they will use a variation of mad freddie Franz's "It would be no surprise if ..........."

  I think numbers will be seriously down by then, they will fade away like the oh so similar Plymouth Brethren.
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  Will the WT stats take a dive in 2014?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  while looking through stas charts on jwfacts i notice two charts of publishers through the years.. on them, it is very clear that growth fell off the chart after 1975 and dropped dramaticaly again at 2000.. we know why for 75 and remember that many understood the big a to come by 2000.. will 2014 mark a subconscious and hopefully conscious psychological reaction from jws and 'interested' ones i wonder?.

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  wobble

  Anybody who has not worked out by now that the WT is the biggest steaming pile of crap will probably not wake up then either.

  You have got to have suspended any critical thinking skills to go along with it now, those skills will remain dormant for the mind controlled JW's even after 2014 has come and gone.

  This will not be difficult for them as Nugget points out, if they had openly promised something for 2014 it might have affected a number, but they are already safely tucking away any thoughts about how long ago 1914 was.

  Do more ! Stay close ! The end is sooooooooo near! How do we know ? The Holy Spirit, sorry we mean The Holy Governing Body, said so!
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  Is there any way around this? (Preaching when you don't believe)

  by venusinfauxfurs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i figure i can do more to wake friends and family up on the inside than the outside and i didn't come to that decision without a great deal of pain.

  i know it's not "the truth" but it isn't a bad life for me,and i still very much believe in god.

  the witnesses aren't right but neither are the mormons, the catholics, etc and i have other family devoted to both those faiths.

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  wobble

  In my later years of being in, I never pushed JW doctrine at the doors, I usually elected to go by myself, only on rare occasions did someone ask to work along with me, even then I simply got a conversation going and talked about the Bible and listened to the H'Holderand left a couple of mags or a brochure as a way of ending the conversation.

  If I was with a companion, I would studiously write down all the info about the "call", but I never went back.

  In early 2007 I stopped going in the DtoD work because I had come to the conclusion that the 1914 teaching was simply not in scripture at all,I did not get hung up onthe date 607 BC or anything like that, I just read Daniel and could see that the whole doctrine was pulled out of someone's arse.

  Less than a year later, despite all my family being in, I walked away for good.

  I don't see that you will have a problem with DtoD if you use my method, I will be surprised if you stick to the whole pointless waste of time for long though.

  A lot of people hang on in the Borg thinking they will help family to get out, How exactly? If you haven't made it out yourself you cannot lead someone else, you are not free to speak what you know, carefully phrased little thoughts are brushed off by JW's, they don't think about what you say, so how can you make a difference to family by "hiding your light under a bushel"???
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  Elderelite where is audio from zone meeting that you promise ...

  by obarac in

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  you promise us audio from zone meeting.

  you change your mind?.

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  wobble

  It is an intersting exercise though to compare the number baptised over a longer period, say 20 years, and allowing for 1 or 1.5% death rate, then see what the increase Net should have been.

  The missing are either DF'd, DA'd or simply walked away, and over twenty years there are THOUSANDS of us, who have done one of the three.
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  Thoughts on University Education

  by Band on the Run in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  universities were established by the catholic church.

  the european ones are ancient.

  judaism provided a robust education, esp.

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  wobble

  I think the WT's attitude toward Uni. education springs from both Russell and Rutherford not rally being qualified in anything (Rutherford dabbled in the law that is all) and freddie Franz had no qualifications, not even as a normal human being !
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  Brush Up Your Bedroom Etiquette

  by Bangalore in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  brush up your bedroom etiquette.. http://in.lifestyle.yahoo.com/brush-up-your-bedroom-etiquette.html.

  bangalore.

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  wobble

  Is that you in the picture, in bed with the tottie Mankelli ? looks like you !