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  WITNESS WORLD IS CLOSING DOWN

  by DevonMcBride in

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  this was posted on ww today.

  do you think the apostate infiltration had anything to do with it?.

  in the name of christian unity and peace, we regret to inform you that the management of ww has decided to close the ?park?

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  gypsywildone

  Lol@Steph

  And they beat Blondie's prediction of 6 months.
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  Possible Anti - Apostates here on JWD.

  by link in

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  this is obviously in response to the thread "possible apostates here on jwd" started by flying high now.

  it was clearly not intended to be taken seriously but it does reflect another possibility that should be considered seriously and that is that there are anti-apostates on this board.. i do not consider myself to be a particularly paranoid person but i have seen signs of things that do not seem quite right to me.

  so what do i mean and how would an anti-apostate operate here?

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  gypsywildone

  HC, since you were at least civil & not insulting, I will answer you. I am gently, but most assuredly nudging my sister out of her jw haze. However, she is married to the son of an elder, & he is what I worry about. Did you read the first post in this thread? No one is objecting to the truth about the lie.

  Is there a site anyone could suggest that has info on witchtower without the insulting fights, etc. where I dare send her that if HE saw the posts, it might just ease him out also? She was not raised this way, & I warned her when she was a teenager & my mother was dragging her in. I feel she knows there is real life out here, but is very under his thumb. He is still very head tripped by them. I'm sure a couple more dubbies are nothing to you, but they mean alot to me. I'm sure most would rather exercise their freedom than worry about a couple more jws, but not me.
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  Possible Anti - Apostates here on JWD.

  by link in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is obviously in response to the thread "possible apostates here on jwd" started by flying high now.

  it was clearly not intended to be taken seriously but it does reflect another possibility that should be considered seriously and that is that there are anti-apostates on this board.. i do not consider myself to be a particularly paranoid person but i have seen signs of things that do not seem quite right to me.

  so what do i mean and how would an anti-apostate operate here?

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  gypsywildone

  I have wondered if some people don't consider the effect their posts could have on jws looking around here. The stuff you mention would scare them back to the borg in a heart beat! This site has the potential to help a lot of people, & has helped a lot of people.

  I'm not suggesting censorship or anything like that, but for everyone to police themselves & consider what the site has the potential for. It has the potential to be a refuge after a day's work, an understanding place when someone has problems with a jw family member or life in general.
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  Are You Involved In Politics At All?

  by minimus in

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  since i've been raised a jw, i obviously never voted-----not even in school.

  yet, i've always been very interested in politics (more than i should've been as a witness).

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  gypsywildone

  I have been voting many years & I hold a minor office in my township that I was appointed to.

  I do NOT get involved in political rants, however. I personally find it offensive & it ends up bringing everyone down. It quickly disintegrates into insulting things being slung back and forth. It changes no one's mind. It starts to feel jw to me when someone tries to "educate" other people.

  I love politics! I think unless someone votes, they shouldn't complain. But I keep my politics to myself :)
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  Pro Life, pro choice?

  by got my forty homey? in

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  i always have felt that the following expressions were stupid, why dont they just call it pro abortion, anti abortion.

  anyway, knowing our backgrounds as jw's what is your viewpoint on this highly debated issue?

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  gypsywildone

  That's true Dawn, PG was the best kind of friend a person could have. These decisions are never entered into lightly, & they are very traumatic.
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  Pro Life, pro choice?

  by got my forty homey? in

  1. jw
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  i always have felt that the following expressions were stupid, why dont they just call it pro abortion, anti abortion.

  anyway, knowing our backgrounds as jw's what is your viewpoint on this highly debated issue?

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  gypsywildone

  Elamona,

  Why so hostile & angry?

  The entire subject has to do with the effect on the earth's atmostphere, discarded items, pollution, emissions from automobiles, global warming trends, etc. Why not do some reseach on the topic?
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  Pro Life, pro choice?

  by got my forty homey? in

  1. jw
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  i always have felt that the following expressions were stupid, why dont they just call it pro abortion, anti abortion.

  anyway, knowing our backgrounds as jw's what is your viewpoint on this highly debated issue?

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  gypsywildone

  Excerpt from a book currently used in an environmental science class at college called Maybe One, by Bill McKibben, page 102 :

  When she began studying the difference between pro-choice & pro-life advocates, Kristin Luker noticed something interesting. It was true that they differed over the morality of terminating pregnancy, but those differences were the product of other, more fundamentalist, splitsin their view of the world. They felt differently aobut God, about the role fo women, and, most interestingly, about the nature of planning.

  Pro-choice activists, she observed, were almost obsessed with planning for their children, trying to give them "maximum parental guidance and every possible advantage", while parents active in the anti-abortion movement "tend to be laissez-faire individuals in their attitude" toward child rearing. "Pro-life people", she wrote, "believe that one becomes a parent by being a parent; parenthood for them is a "natural" rather than a social role . . .The values implied by the invogue term parenting (as in parenting classes) are alien to them". One woman that she interviewed said "I think people are foolish to worry about things in the future. The future takes care of itself" Too much planning, including too much family planning, means "playing God".

  That way of seeing the world attracts me; there is in its spontaneity and confidence something of a real beauty. It offers a kind of freedom. Not the freedom of unlimited options that we've come to idolize, but a freedom from constant worrying and fretting. Sometimes I hate the calculater instinct in me that constantly weighs benefits and risks, the part that keeps me safe and solvent at the expense of experience. There is something incredibly attractive about the mystery of the next child, and the next; I'd love to meet them. I'd love to leave it to God, or to chance, or to biology, or to destiny, or to the wind.

  The trouble is, there are now other ways to play God in this world, & not planning is one of them.

  We no longer hae the luxury of not planning; we're simply too big. We dominate the earth. In a crowded world, not planning has as many consequences as planning.

  Some statistics from this book:

  In one recent study, condoms broke 4.8 percent of the time that they were used. Sixty percent of pregnancies in the US are unintended. That doesn't mean all those children are unwanted; half just come when their parents weren't planning on it, but half end in abortion. In fact, six in ten women having abortions did so because their contraception failed; among typical couples, 18 percent using diaphrams and 12 percent using condoms managed to get pregnant.

  I would highly recommend this book for everyone, as it makes a person think about mankind's effect on the earth, the effects of overpopulation, & it even explains the "warming" of the earth simply & concisely. It also crushes some myths & stereotypes about only children, using statistics & studies.
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  Demolishing an aspect of the JW's explanation for evil

  by logansrun in

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  part of the watchtower's response to theodicy -- the problem of why an omniscient, all-loving god would allow evil -- is that adam and eve were given free will and chose to exercise their right to disobey god, hence bringing sin, evil and death into the world through their genes (of course the genome has been mapped and no evidence whatosever for that idea is established, but i digress).

  let's look at this problem of evil a little more closely.

  a common objection to the jws is "why didn't god just create adam and eve so that they would not sin and, hence, there would be no evil?

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  gypsywildone

  This was also explained the same way to me by another Christian, & it doesn't make sense to me either, along with a whole lot of other stuff about that religion. Perfect things don't malfunction.

  Suuposing one was able to believe the first part of that explaination. If it were all true, why wouldn't God just fix everything? If it were all true & their God was a loving God, why wouldn't he just put it all right?
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  I Got It!! I Got The RA!!

  by asleif_dufansdottir in

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  and i won't be paying $4500 out-of-state tuition, and it has a 55% reduction in in-state tuition, along with a small stipend.. but i will be busy this semester!!.

  i can afford to buy new glasses now!

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  gypsywildone

  Awesome!
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  Fistfights at the KH/ assembly hall.

  by avishai in

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  another topic brought this up.

  my dad slugged a guy who beat up his own wife, my dad's childhood friend, during the intermission right after the public talk.

  which my dad gave, he was guest speaker.

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  gypsywildone

  Lol, I never saw any of this in my short stint at the witchtower concentration camp :(

  It would have been a damn sight more entertaining than those dramas :)