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  Christmas

  by lancelink in

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  2. bible

  for years as a jw i believed that christmas and everything associated with it was bad.

  but lately i have been looking at different beliefs, and reading books of the bible in their entirety (not just convenient verses).

  i was amazed at the way bible stories taught by the jw's change when the entire chapter is read !

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  lancelink

  For years as a JW I believed that Christmas and everything associated with it was bad.
  But lately I have been looking at different beliefs, and reading books of the Bible in their entirety (not just convenient verses).
  
  I was amazed at the way Bible stories taught by the JW's change when the entire chapter is read !
  One of my favorites lately is the birth of Jesus, ALWAYS the "wrong" beliefs of the world seemed to be highlighted when this story was discussed at the hall, or in smaller groups, celebrating the birth is wrong,,,,
  
  yet while looking at the watchtower site this evening I ran across the verses posted below :
  
  
  Luke 2:8-14 describes what followed: "There were also in that same country shepherds living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks. And suddenly Jehovah's angel stood by them, and Jehovah's glory gleamed around them, and they became very fearful. But the angel said to them: 'Have no fear, for, look! I am declaring to you good news of a great joy that all the people will have, because there was born to you today a Savior, who is Christ the Lord, in David's city. And this is a sign for you: you will find an infant bound in cloth bands and lying in a manger.' And suddenly there came to be with the angel a multitude of the heavenly army, praising God and saying: 'Glory in the heights above to God, and upon earth peace among men of goodwill.'"
  
  The angels celebrated and were happy, who dictates that people here on earth are wrong and will not receive Gods favor if they
  imitate the angels?
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  Did You NOT Do Certain Things For People Because U Had To Get Your Time In?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i knew many people that were in need of assistance within the congregation that never got helped because the "friends" were more focused on getting their field service time in as opposed to helping those within the "brotherhood".

  were you one of those ever in need that got ignored because the brothers and sisters were more involved in "theocratic" pursuits?.

  were you one of those that routinely ignored the needy because you had more important spiritual responsibilities to take care of?.

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  lancelink

  The dub organization has a very poor record of "taking care of its own" and is widely known as a religion that "shoots its wounded." They talk a good game.
  
  But if someone who needed help was well - connected in the hall/circuit/district I noticed that they received help almost immediately.
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  Raising children as JW's

  by lancelink in

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  2. friends

  tonight my wife and i attended a christmas play held at a local church.

  it was really cute, 4-8 year olds recreating the whole christ story, when suddenly this totally empty feeling hit me like a punch to the face.

  i realized how much we missed out with our own two kids by raising them as jws.

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  lancelink

  Tonight my wife and I attended a Christmas play held at a local church.
  It was really cute, 4-8 year olds recreating the whole Christ story, when suddenly this totally empty feeling hit me like a punch to the face. I realized how much we missed out with our own two kids by raising them as JW’s.
  My wife and I celebrated holidays until out late teens, then got baptized as witnesses. Did the whole WT lifestyle for over thirty years.
  Man, did we miss out on a lot of things, it was very hard for me to look at the faces of the parents, how proud and happy they were watching their children actually living, learning, and enjoying their religion. Highlights regarding religion for my kids seemed to be:
  1) get stressed out 4 x’s a week getting ready for the meetings, and field service. Homework?? You better get it done before the meeting or else !!
  2) practice over and over each TMS talk, instead of it being something to enjoy,, preparation always seemed to be focused on improving “counsel points” instead of actually learning, and enjoying the experience.
  3) Hounding them to answer, they were shy and it was really hard for them.
  ( I’m sure this really turned them off regarding religion.)
  Don’t get me wrong, I am very proud of my college-age kids, and they are very moral persons who are doing well with their lives.
  But the things we missed doing during their childhood because of our religion,, really breaks my heart now. This was our decision, but how twisted we were making our kids grow up missing so many things.
  Any other people with an experience like this ??
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-21-08 WT Study (HEARTFELT)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 12-21-08 wt study (october 15, 2008, pages (12-16)(heartfelt).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  Thank you Blondie this is a great review,
  
  I can't believe that for thirty years I sat, listened, and believed everything about articles like this.
  
  Now when I read them, or follow along on your reviews, I get a really depressed feeling, this is what I was and believed ??
  
  Your comments really show how superficial the WT studies are and how history is twisted toward their beliefs,, yuck
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  The Peace Symbol- why looked down upon by JWs?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  looking at clothing in the mall my j dub wife sees a shirt with the peace symbol on it and so remarks upon it in a negative fashion.

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  In the 70's at my KH it was thought to be an upside-down crucifix with a circle around it.
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  The most stupid thing a sister said to me

  by Newborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one of my "so called" closest sister friend in the congregation, said to me when we once had lunch that "if i was a man, i would want to have an affair with you"!!!

  i just went numb...what a crazy thing to say.

  i think she revealed her sick deep thoughts.

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  was this one of her favorite songs?
  
  
  
  
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  paramedic molesters

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here is an interesting article: .

  url: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28179848/ .

  paramedics accused of molesting patients .

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  here is an interesting article:
  
  
  URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28179848/
  
  
  Paramedics accused of molesting patients
  129 paramedics accused of sex-related crimes over last 18 months
  The Associated Press
  updated 1:21 p.m. CT, Thurs., Dec. 11, 2008
  
  DALLAS - They answer the call 24-7, often risking their own safety to rescue the sick and injured and rush them to the hospital. But some paramedics have been more predator than hero.
  
  Over the past 18 months, at least 129 ambulance attendants across the U.S. have been accused of sex-related crimes on duty or off, an investigation by The Associated Press found. Some of them molested patients in the back of an ambulance.
  
  "It's a dream job for a sexual predator," said Greg Kafoury, a Portland, Ore., lawyer who represents three women who were groped by a paramedic. "Everything is there: Women who are incapacitated, so they're hugely distracted. Medical cover to put your hands in places where, in any other context, a predator would be immediately recognized as such."
  
  Across the U.S., emergency medical technicians have been accused in recent months of such crimes as rape, soliciting minors over the Internet and possession of child porn, according to an AP survey of the state agencies that oversee those professions.
  
  Some shocking cases
  Exactly how many of these EMTs were alleged to have committed their crimes on the job is unclear. But some of more shocking cases include:
  # A Standish, Mich., paramedic sent to prison in March for molesting a girl who was on her way to the hospital after she was injured at her 15th birthday party.
  # A Pinellas County, Fla., paramedic arrested in July after he allegedly sexually assaulted a woman in an ambulance en route to a hospital.
  # A Chester County, Pa., paramedic sentenced in July to up to 20 years in prison for engaging in sex and providing alcohol to teenagers he befriended through their interest in emergency medical service.
  # A Copperas Cove, Texas, paramedic awaiting trial in January on charges he exposed and touched an 18-year-old accident victim's breasts while pretending to tend to her injuries.
  # A Chattanooga, Tenn., EMT accused in a lawsuit of giving a 30-year-old woman an extra dose of morphine and then completely undressing her in the back of an ambulance even though her injuries were minor.
  
  State health officials in 23 states reported receiving sex-related complaints involving EMS workers. New York reported the most complaints — 17. Thirteen of the complaints were substantiated and resulted in workers losing their certification. Texas reported 13 complaints, Massachusetts 11 and Virginia 10. No breakdown was immediately available showing how many of those allegations involved sexual misconduct on the job.
  
  Several EMS officials said the number of complaints is troubling but does not necessarily point to an industrywide problem. They noted that the profession employs nearly 900,000 people in the U.S.
  
  'Is even one case tolerable?'
  "That number in and of itself doesn't shock me, knowing the number of providers we have in the country," said Steve Blessing, state EMS director in Delaware and president of the National Association of State EMS Officials. "Is even one case tolerable? I think most state directors would say no. But we're bound by reality here."
  
  In Portland, paramedic Lannie Haszard was sentenced to five years in prison in August after pleading guilty to five counts of attempted sexual abuse. Haszard, 62, was charged with inappropriately touching four female patients while they were being taken by ambulance to hospitals.
  
  Three of the women have sued Haszard and American Medical Response, his employer at the time. The lawsuits contend that the company, which operates ambulances in 40 states, failed to react to previous complaints about the paramedic's conduct.
  
  Haszard's behavior came to light last December when a 28-year-old single mother of three, Royshekka Herring, told police that he touched her genitals while she was en route to the hospital for emergency treatment of a gastrointestinal condition.
  
  In a recent taped deposition, Herring's voice shook with emotion as she described how a nurse tried to convince her that Haszard was probably performing an abdominal exam.
  
  "I started yelling at her, because I didn't feel safe," Herring testified. "Somebody I never expected to touch me touched me."
  
  A spokesman for American Medical Response had no comment on the case.
  
  Former Dallas Fire Chief Steve Abraira suggested ambulances carry three workers. Ambulances usually have two — one in the front, one in the back.
  
  "If there's a person predisposed to do something wrong, there's nobody there to witness or discourage that individual from doing something," said Abraira, now the fire chief in Palm Bay, Fla.
  
  Twenty-eight states do not automatically bar known sex offenders from working as EMTs, the AP found.
  
  Although most insist they would rarely, if ever, allow sex offenders to work those jobs, the AP found that Texas has knowingly allowed eight, Louisiana two and Maine, Virginia and North Carolina one each. There is no indication any of those people were accused of sexual misconduct after being allowed to work EMS jobs.
  
  Twenty-two states strictly prohibit such offenders from working as EMTs.
  
  "This is the type of person we don't want in the back of an ambulance with your mother or daughter," said March Tucker, an EMS regulator in West Virginia.
  
  All but one of the eight registered sex offenders certified to work in Texas victimized children ranging in age from 6 to 16.
  
  "Oh, my goodness, that's really scary," said Winfred Dean, who supervises the sex offender monitoring unit for the Harris County probation department in Houston. "I thought people like that would more than likely be eliminated."
  
  Texas officials said state regulations call for EMS licensing decisions to be made on a case-by-case basis.
  
  "The only thing we can do is follow the law, and the law allows this," said Maxie Bishop, state EMS director. "We have to take a look at the crime, how long it's been, the nature of it and what that person has done since."
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  How To Get Fired as Congregation Secretary!

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  very simple, really.

  say that witnesses are responsible adults and as such, need to turn in their field service reports on time without a lot of reminders.. don't check up on them by phone asking 'where's your time this month?'.

  i know that doing things like this can get you canned as secretary.

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  lancelink

  In 1979 there was a pioneer brother who decided one month that "counting time" was not the biblical correct thing to do and just stopped it,he still did his time, yet he did not report it.
  
  my goodness, you would have thought that he killed someone with all the attention he got!
  
  last i heard he is not pioneering or attending meetings anymore, i guess that thinking for yourself is a bad thing.
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  Do you know of any df'd Swingers that got reinstated?

  by asilentone in

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  lancelink

  perhaps these guys ?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9SaKYFR6ms&feature=related
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  NOT patient enough

  by lancelink in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since it is raining/snowing/cold outside i was cleaning out my cd case and ran across the wt cd from 1999. .

  i was looking at different subjects, and came across this article and thought wtf !

  they are the ones who have directed members to look at certain dates, time periods etc.

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  lancelink

  Since it is raining/snowing/COLD outside i was cleaning out my CD case and ran across the WT CD from 1999.
  
  I was looking at different subjects, and came across this article and thought WTF !
  
  THEY are the ones who have directed members to look at certain dates, time periods etc. .
  And paragraph #8:
  "Other dedicated Christians have wrecked the ship of their faith by thrusting aside their conscience and indulging in this world's unbridled pleasure-seeking and its sexual immorality. "
  Most people I know were having a hard time just surviving financially then, having this much fun was out of the question.
  
  
  *** w99 7/15 17-18 Anchored by Hope, Impelled by Love ***
  Why Some Suffer Shipwreck
  
  7 When Paul warned of experiencing "shipwreck," he had in mind some who had "thrust aside" their good conscience and had lost their faith. (1 Timothy 1:19)
  Among them were Hymenaeus and Alexander who fell into apostasy, deviating from the truth and speaking abusively. (1 Timothy 1:20, footnote; 2 Timothy 2:17,
  18) Today, apostates, who deviate from the truth, verbally beat "the faithful and discreet slave," in effect biting the hand that had been feeding them spiritually. Some resemble the "evil slave," implicitly saying, "My master is delaying." (Matthew 24:44-49; 2 Timothy 4:14, 15) They deny that the end of this wicked system of things is near and criticize the spiritually alert slave class for maintaining a sense of urgency among Jehovah's people. (Isaiah 1:3) Such apostates succeed in "subverting the faith of some," inducing spiritual shipwreck.-2 Timothy 2:18.
  
  8 Other dedicated Christians have wrecked the ship of their faith by thrusting aside their conscience and indulging in this world's unbridled
  pleasure-seeking and its sexual immorality. (2 Peter 2:20-22) Still others scuttle their ship of faith because in their view the haven of the
  new system of things does not yet seem to be appearing on the horizon. Unable to make time calculations concerning the fulfillment of certain
  prophecies, and putting "Jehovah's day" off in their minds, they abandon true worship. (2 Peter 3:10-13; 1 Peter 1:9)
  They soon find themselves back in the murky, troubled waters of the present system of things. (Isaiah 17:12, 13; 57:20)
  Some who have stopped associating with the Christian congregation still believe that it practices the true religion.
  However, they evidently lack the patience and endurance required to wait for the new world that Jehovah God has promised.
  Life in Paradise has not come soon enough for them.
  
  9 A few dedicated Christians in some parts of the world appear to have reefed the sails of their ship of faith. The ship is still afloat,
  but instead of forging ahead in full faith, they have adopted a cruising speed. Drawn by the hope of "Paradise soon," some were prepared to
  spare no efforts to attain it-zealous in the preaching work and regular in attendance at all meetings, assemblies, and conventions.
  Now thinking that the realization of their hopes is farther off than they anticipated, they have lowered the price they are willing to pay.
  This is evident in reduced preaching activity, irregularity at meetings, and willingness to miss parts of assembly or convention programs.
  Others are devoting more time to recreation and to obtaining material comforts. These facts lead us to consider what should be the driving
  force in our lives in line with our dedication to Jehovah. Should our zeal in his service be dependent on the hope of "Paradise soon"?