Posts by lancelink

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Other KC DC highlights

by stillajwexelder in

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manuscript talk - denim is bad - then a whole item on low cut tops, tight clothing, long slits etc - and bra straps showing (you can not make this shit up) is also bad.

last but one item - desperate need for brothers to reach out - cant form congregations if brothers dont reach out.

Denim was bad in the Bethel Tour Brochure and by extension not good in other theocratic activities

What ??

I have heard this over the years, but never got a decent reply,
is denim made by satanists, is it made from plants that grow in demon world, or does satan himself
produce it ?

what is the WT reasoning on THIS one

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Has there ever been a LTR about No-College?

by yknot in

jw
friends

so elders / ex elders out there.....can ya give a girl some help?.

so far we have heard that these anti-college 'rules' have been given verbally.. i doubt the wts would be stupid enough to put into writing now, but have they in the past?.

this year dc..online porn...next year....online classes....lol.

lancelink

I cannot open the file,

could you possibly save it as a word document ?

18

CO talked to me to encourage me

by stillajwexelder in

well the co asked me to reach out again to be an elder because the organization needs men like me - i am serious - that is what he said.

if only he knew.

so all i need to do is get my hours to average 12 or better per month.. no chance.

lancelink

the APOSTAPHONE

Ultracool!
where can i get one of these ?

Is it anything like the batphone from the 60's series ?

14

MTS School???

by LearningMore in

could someone explain what mts is?

i am assuming it is ministerial training school, but i don't really know the significance of it.

i keep hearing reference to it, but i guess i don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided.

lancelink

I recently met this young, pompous a** who wants to go to this training school.

He is dating this wonderful, young girl and everyone in her family hates this guy,
they ALL state that he seems to have a rather large corn cob shoved up his rear-end.
Anyway, he wants to marry her, and his local BOE approved his going to this school,
is that normal, screwed up,
or what ?

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Kansas City info

by mann377 in

i have been trying to find (or what happened to them) a family that i knew in the late '70"s by the name of bergen.

they live in the kansas part of the city and had one daughter.

does anyone know them or what happened to them?

lancelink

I knew a BERGMAN / ex-wife named Sheila ?

5

middle age revelation

by lancelink in

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friends

just thinking here, reading some comments, and realizing how attitude changes with age.

when i was a teenager, .

being able to have some menial job (such as walking around with a please take your seat sign) at the convention was an awesome privilege.

lancelink

Just thinking here, reading some comments, and realizing how attitude changes with age.
When I was a teenager,
being able to have some menial job (such as walking around with a “please take your seat” sign) at the convention was an awesome privilege.
Being able to cut the grass at the hall, wash the windows, etc, etc, was so great!

Twenty rolled around,,,

And I got married, had kids, worked a FT job, bought a house, made sure raising my kids the "right way" was a major priority,
made all the meetings, had responsibilities such as caring for the magazines, parts on the service meeting, handled the microphones, held a book study at our home and went out in fs every weekend.

Thirty comes up,,,,

Still have some major responsibilities at the hall,
(Have not been considered to become a MS at all.)
Kids are getting older and starting togive us the usual hassles about going to the meetings all the time.
So I get them involved with the responsibilities I have.
They help set up the microphones at the TS before the meeting, count the magazines when they arrive in the mail for me, and help get the house in shape for the study and service on Saturday.
Whew! During this time I make a real effort to become a MS, always, ALWAYS I’m told that I’m not doing enough! And yet, brothers who make half the effort (honestly, believe me here when I say the term half-effort) are getting appointed left and right.
I begin to realize and see the good old boys club is a real live thing at the hall.

40 arrives,

At least 90% of my so called “ outstanding / upright theocratic associates” have been either DF’ed. divorced, or just disappeared within the last several years .
Suddenly I begin to take stock of where I am and begin to wonder just what the hell I have been doing with my life in this unstable religion.
S-l-o-w-l-y, s-l-o-w-l-y, I began to realize that the watchtower society is not the absolutely wonderful organization that I grew up believing it was.
At this time I begin my fade, and guess what?
The elders all of a sudden are over me like flies on a fresh pile asking why I’m not doing “all that I should be doing”
Why not come back to the meetings, reach out once again, and make theocratic goals the forefront of your life?
(I realize that biting my tongue at times like this can be either a blessing, or a curse.)
Sorry, I don’t feel like beating my head against a brick wall any more because you guys all of a sudden realized that I’m not going to follow your every whim and desire any more

So what is it?

At middle age do most people really begin to question what their life really is?
I could never go back to being a witness, too much hypocrisy, and unrealistic expectations in this religion. I’m examining, and studying religions of the world for my Own enjoyment and knowledge, it is really refreshing to study this subject without worrying about what someone might think, or say about it.
And that is a very refreshing feeling !!!

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Just received a call

by sspo in

i was checking jwd and just received a call from an older sister to check on me and see how i was doing.. right off the bat she started telling me how hard times are and everybody is depressed and having a tough time, .

on and on and on and how the new system is the only releif and hope we have..........well i could feel my blood boiling and put a stop to it .

and just reminded her i just don't believe anymore, i have no more faith but i'm doing just fine and i'm very happy and things are going well for me.. well, she didn't know what to say after that and started once again how jehovah is blessing the organization since there are more than 900 kh.

lancelink

I wonder what the shepherds in the congregation are busy doing?
several times the local BOE have made an appt. with me to stop over after Sat. morn.
FS and they never arrived ,
Not that I'm really interested in talking to them,,,,, just being polite I guess?

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I got shunned at Wal-Mart

by loosie in

this is actually hilarious to me.

i am not df'd or da'd.

i just haven't gone for 3 years.. this woman (sister) works at my daughters school.

lancelink

Apparently, entrance into paradise is preceded by acting like a jerk...

breakingaway, that is one perfectly-stated comment !!!

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Why I will NEVER be an elder again

by stillajwexelder in

so the po confirmed what many on this board already know.

at latest round of co to elders meeting, the co quoted from the society outline.

any elder or ms who encourages college for his kids or others or who allows his children to go to college will no longer qualify.. he then asked if i was going to take the cos encouragement and reach out again to be an elder and get my hours on the ministry up.. i replied "i will never be an elder again - i strongly approve of further education and college and have been through college myself.

lancelink

As John belushi stated so eloquently
was it over when the Germans bombed pearl harbor?

This type of intelligence is what the wtbts is quickly accepting as normal.

remember : when the going get tough ,,,,,,

the tough get going

who's with me !

22

Brotherly love in action ?

by lancelink in

kind of a strange experience here, maybe someone can make me see what's going on.

my parents live in another state, to visit them would require at least a 22 hour drive, no trains, .

planes are fine but since the airport is in the middle of nowhere tickets are getting quite costly ($$$$$$.

lancelink

kind of a strange experience here, maybe someone can make me see what's going on.

My parents live in another state, to visit them would require at least a 22 hour drive, no trains,
planes are fine but since the airport is in the middle of nowhere tickets are getting quite costly ($$$$$$.)

Anyway, for years they were decent, normal witnesses, they did the usual things like have a book study in their home
for several years, they gave talks, and helped out when and where they could.
Somewhere within the last three years, they had somewhat of a falling out with some of the witnesses, it seems that there
was quite a hierarchy in their cong. so they basically quit going. From what I understand, most of their good friends had
either died, gone to nursing homes, or moved away.
MY father several weeks ago has a stroke, almost dies, and is currently moving between the IT unit of the local hospital and a rehab home. My mother is driving 40+ miles almost each day to visit him.
Since I am in Wisconsin, I cannot get down to visit very easily, my two brothers
(both from different parts of the country, much closer than me) have gone down, and they stated that there is really no
reason for me to come down until the situation changes,, one way or the other.

I recently realized that the local congregation of JW's has not been involved at all. This situation has been pretty
stressful on my mom, and I realize that if there are some hard feelings in the pipeline, this type of emergency situation should be foremost,forget the ego's right now.
But it seems that within the last few years nobody has even checked up on them.
My first reaction is to call their hall and find out why none of the "spiritually strong" individuals have done anything,
my parents helped out quite a few witnesses (spiritually and $$),, is this how the society really works?
or am I just emotionally venting right now ?

Any comments will be greatly appreciated, positive or negative, I need some other opinions to decide what to do.