I was in a congregation where a sister moderated a book study, was the "accounts servant, magazine servant, literature servant." A real lack of brothers I have seen sisters in some congregations as an individual read the paragraphs at a book study without being required to wear a head covering. In one congregation, a sister audited the congregation accounts. In one a sister did accounts but had to hide it by having her husband sign it and announce it. In one the BOE wanted sisters to do the mikes but the CO forbade it and ordered the elders to do it. In one a sister also did sound, accounts, magazine/literature/territory because there was only one elder and no qualified baptized brothers. No way could he do everything Wow Blondie, are you talking about Lincoln Illinois back in the late 70's / early 80's ? This is almost exactly what was going on at this hall. Don karto was the head elder, and he did not want to use ANY of the younger guys. One year the CO came in and really put him in his place, I heard that he left shortly afterwards.
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How Were "Sisters" Treated In Your Hall?
by minimus inin my hall, there were a number of females who were more qualified to run a hall than were some of the elders.
certain elders expressed their intimidation of these females by picking on them, to correct them, if they possibly could.
as long as a "sister" was "submissive", she was wonderful!
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live with jehovahs day in mind and children
by lancelink ini was looking over this book today, and ran into an interesting situation.
on this site, and in the news, the comment has been made quite often regarding how children seem to be leaving the organization in droves.
but this book keeps hitting on how adults and kids should put god and his service first, yet their is an undercurrent of desperation .
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I was looking over this book today, and ran into an interesting situation.
On this site, and in the news, the comment has been made quite often regarding how children seem to be leaving the organization in droves.
But this book keeps hitting on how adults and kids should put God and his service first, yet their is an undercurrent of desperation
in the wording at times.
On page 83 paragraph 3 the comment is brought up as to how people will disregard gods standards for living, yet accept standards set by men.
The example used is water quality, how important clean water is to your having good health, if the quality is bad, diarrhea and other
problems can occur.And CHILDREN are especially affected !
The statement " if there were no standards we would soon notice" is made regarding water quality.
Well,, if JW's are so "righteous and pure" why are kids leaving at an alarming rate ?
if there were no standards we would soon notice seems to really reflect on the organization and the example kids are expected to follow
in their lives.
Something must be wrong with the way standards are being taught, and the examples being set in the JW religion, it seem that there is
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feel like I've walked into a tar pit
by lancelink inaround three years ago my wife started to invite the mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.
this went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week.
i would work late because i wanted .
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wonderful, they are probably talking about this when I'm not around.
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feel like I've walked into a tar pit
by lancelink inaround three years ago my wife started to invite the mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.
this went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week.
i would work late because i wanted .
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kind of a weird evening.
I work at a local school, and am getting prepared for the new semester.
This means that there has been much working late, so this evening I get home around 7:30pm and there
is a Mormon elder, along with his wife sitting in my living room when I get home talking to my wife !
Suddenly they 'have to get going" (yea, right) and take off.
This is starting to get a somewhat JW "creepy feeling" to me.
I mean they come over and talk when I'm not around.
Basically I'm totally exhausted dealing with this situation, the JW elders seem to have just added
fuel to the fire with their unspecific support.
Oh I did not mention that my wife met with several elders once, spoke for two hours and nothing was done.
later, (about 1 year later) I told her to speak to her PO about what has been going on. Three hours discussion with him in a local park, and nothing wrong with her attitude,?!
After reading all the suggestions given me here, I believe that a "hard nose" attitude is what I'm going to follow. After being a JW for years, and going along with their version of getting disciples I can really see what is going on here, kind of like looking from the inside-out.
We knew a really neat couple in a neighboring congregation what were divorced about three years ago,problems between them just increased so he left and they agreed to a divorce. My wife could not understand how this lady would sacrifice her marriage in order to remain completely faithful to a "man made" organization(JW) with the support of her large family who are ALL hard line witnesses.
Yet now my wife is putting most of her free time, energy, and support to the Mormons,an extraordinarily man made religion
if there ever was one !
So, I'm going to draw the similarity between her actions, and the sister who she routinely criticized,
religion #1, marriage#2 and if she becomes a Mormon, I'm leaving. I'm not going thru that religious crap all over again.
And another point that I'm going to ask the mormons the next time they invite me to sit and talk with them,
in Genesis, the devil told Eve that if she ate the fruit, she would become like god, yet the mormons believe that they will BECOME a god
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Name Things That Are Uniquely "Special" To Jehovah's Witnesses
by minimus injws have certain must haves.
for example a jw needs his or her own "bookbag".
an elder needs an "elder case", something very big, because after all, he's an elder!
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A leather bound NWT Bible, along with a reasoning book attached in the back.
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feel like I've walked into a tar pit
by lancelink inaround three years ago my wife started to invite the mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.
this went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week.
i would work late because i wanted .
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thank you for all the support and suggestions.
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feel like I've walked into a tar pit
by lancelink inaround three years ago my wife started to invite the mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.
this went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week.
i would work late because i wanted .
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Around three years ago my wife started to invite the Mormon missionaries in, and have discussions with them.
This went on for several months, then the get together s started to be 2-3 times a week. I would work late because i wanted
no part of it. (you see I was seriously starting my fade, and i didn't want to get involved with anything else.
Well she really was starting to progress with their studies, and since she seemed to be a true JW, I told her that she was sailing in uncharted waters, and she might want to watch herself.
For the next 2 years they came on a regular schedule, and surprisingly I found myself defending the witnesses, trying to remember points and topics that would prove that the mormon beliefs were false.
( talk about walking a thin tightrope here.)
So I literally told her that she had better speak to the elders in her hall, and that i would agree
to go along with whatever suggestions that the elders gave her. I figured that they would come down pretty hard on her.
She spent over three hours speaking to them, and they decided that she was doing nothing wrong !
They said that it must be an encouragement for her to study with the young people, but that she should watch herself closely so that she did not become an apostate/!.
Now she is seriously tossing the idea around of actually becoming a Mormon!She would just DA herself.
Personally, I have learned during this time how religions like the Mormons and JW's operate, and it is not all sunshine and roses.
I really am tired, and fed up speaking EVERY night for over two years about religion and beliefs,
just worn out regarding this subject :(
Does anyone have a personal experience, or some nugget of research that might help me out here ?
I would really appreciate it.
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John Barleycorn
by JK666 inthere were three men came out of the west, their fortunes for to try.
and these three men made a solemn vow.
john barleycorn must die.
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Small joys
by heybaby inyou know how there are somethings that give you so much pleasure or joy?
it doesn't have to be anything amazing or huge, but for some reason it makes you so happy for those few moments.
some of mine are drinking coffee in the morning with my best friend at work, and the smell of an open fire (it reminds me of being a young child at my grandparents' house).
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I have a birdfeeder mainly used for goldfinches, and there are many doves coming around trying to eat something.
The openings are small slits, so I cut several of them off, and installed little trays so the doves can get something.
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Microphones
by lancelink induring the pasr 5 months i have been attending seminars for work, and going to different churches to see .
and there is one thing that stands out.
the microphones used at the kingdom halls.
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During the pasr 5 months I have been attending seminars for work, and going to different churches to see
what is out there. And there is one thing that stands out.
The microphones used at the kingdom halls.
Every place I have gone to and listened to speeches, or sermons, they all use a microphone and cord attached to the podium
( about 1 foot in length)
When the speaker gets up, he adjusts it in about 1 second, and goes on with his-her speech, they can adjust it slightly during the
talk if needed.
At the KH,CA, and DA it seems that they always use the long shiny metal stands, and a person has to adjust the microphone each time
someone get up on stage. This may sound like a nitpicking thing, but I've always wondered about this.
why does the society always use this type of microphone?
Any communication installers care to make a comment ?