Posts by cry

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Having a tough day? Need a chuckle?

by AwSnap in

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well, follow this mouse.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psupz7wn_5q.

Do you not know?

by Barbra in

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do you not know that they teach wrong doctrine?.

i hope you do i pray you do!

it's brainwash on so many lvls.

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This has been one of the funniest threads I have read - like a comic strip. Outlaw your post had me on the floor laughing. Sorry Barbra, but something's not quite right with your posts.

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metal health problems in the organisation

by looloo in

for "the happiest people on earth" i found so many folk in the cong had depression or suffered with "nerves and axiety" there was one lad who was due to go and "work" in bethel and changed his mind at the last minute and spent nearly all his time on his computer in his bedroom from then on (he must of been on this site !he apparently "went schitsophrenic(dont know how to spell it sorry ) as did his sister and his poor mum was probably the most dedicated dub in the cong but was considered as a bit "bonkers" by all in the cong .

there were 3 elders i know of who had depression and many rank and file , i must admit it did make me question how "happy "being a dub would make me when i was a study and voiced my concerns i was told satan was trying to get them out the truth so they were depressesed or some rubbish like that , but i was also told that people who leave the truth are depressed because they dont have the truth !

you cant have it both ways !

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Hi Looloo, my ex has had very bad anxiety and depression and had to give up work at one point. He says it is because when we were together and I didn't believe, it caused him terrible stress. So, now we are separated, I wonder what will happen. I almost wish his panic and stress will come back, just to prove that it's not me, it's the org. and all his twisted beliefs, but at the same time, I wouldn't wish it on anybody. I would say that cult=mental illness in a lot of cases.

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I am so angry i want to smack someone around. God damn evil ex...I am ranting!

by Aussie Oz in

i am such a placid person.

i will always turn the other cheek.

i will always be the one to yeild.

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Oh I feel your pain Aussie Oz. I am so glad that my kids were grown up before we separated, and before that time I was able to influence them about the org. I can sense a panic that you may lose them to the org forever, and I think that is what is making you so (jusifiably) angry. Could you possibly present a dossier to the court of the realities of the cult? I feel that this needs to be done on a 'grand' scale, for future court cases, so that the courts are more knowledgable about JW and don't just treat them as another religion. Good luck with it all.

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Do you miss God?

by wobble in

if you are one of the posters on here who has got to the point where you do not believe in god to any great extent, do you miss "him".

i find that i rarely used to ask god for anything, or load him up with my problems, everybody elses were far more urgent, but i did used to feel moved to praise him when i saw the beauties of creation, a sunset etc.. i now feel an urge to still do that, but do not believe anyone is listening, do you get moments like that ?.

love.

cry

No, but more importantly does he/she miss me??

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Everything feels broken

by Sapphy in

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hi all - beware, long post comming up!.

i've always been a person who 'needed to know'.

as a born in i felt incredibly lucky that my parents and grandparents had found 'the truth' - no need to struggle to 'break free from babylon's bondage' for me!

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I think for many there is a need to replace one religion with another. Your life has revolved around knowing what is true and what will happen in the future. So if this isn't true then SOMETHING must be. Stop thinking that you know nothing - you know one imortant fact - the JW religion is a mind control cult who mess with peoples lives. Then be ready to learn more from reliable sources. Try and do something tht you have never allowed yourself to do - live for the moment. It seem very indulgent, but it will give you time to re-group your thoughts and find out who you really are. Look after yourself first and foremost and then you can take time to read, discuss, learn and pick out what you want to believe. You can also be free to change your mind on your beliefs whenever you want to. Freedom can be very scary, but it is also liberating - the possibilities are endless.

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Question concerning pedophiles

by Out at Last! in

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in everything i have read and heard, pedophiles associated with the wt organization have been men.

i believe that everyone will agree that pedophilia is not an all male problem, some women prey on children also.

has anyone read or heard of women in the organization accused of pedophilia?

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Yes women do have more opportunity to abuse children - we are the carers, babysitters, teachers, and seen as the nurturers. We have recently had a case in the United Kingdom where a Nursery (kindergarden)worker was found to have abused babies in her care, taken photographs of the abuse, posted it on the internet to a newtwork of paedophile friends - some of them women! It shocked eveyone, as she would not be seen as any kind of threat. Outwardly she loved kids, had kids of her own, was police cleared. There was then a lot of discussion in newspapers and tv about female abusers. It's made me realise that female abusers are not rare. Abuse by male or female adults is equally abhorrent, but there is something about our expectations that in society famales will protect children that makes it seems worsel.

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Volunteering

by Quillsky in

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now that you, as a former jw, have a few evenings and some weekend time freed up, and "charity" is no longer a dirty word, ........ do you do any kind of volunteer work?.

i'm seriously thinking about it..

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Oh, I should mention, that one of the volunteers I support is a J.W. She is a lovely woman, who has gone through a lot. Here ex-husband (elder) cheated on her, was disfellowshipped, got re-instated with his new wife. She had a mental breakdown, and was recommended to us for some voluntary work. She knows my family, but pretends not to. I know that she knows me as an 'apostate'(ish) and she knows that I know her as a JW, but we keep it out of the equation. She is so sweet and I care a lot about her, but I cannot use my position to talk about the TRUTH. She is too vulnerable for me to do this. It's like we do a little dance around it. Sometimes I want to shout out the truth to her, but I cannot, as it would not be appropriate. She has come on so much, and is well liked by everyone, but she never talks about the FALSE - she obviously sees it as inappropriate too.

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thinking - what attracts people to the JW cult

by Married to the Mob in

td made an interesting point in a anther thread that jw attracts unhappy people.

i agree with him but i have another theory, maybe its not true but there must be an element to it.. independent adaptive thinking.

i can cook, infact if i blow my own trumpet i can cook really well!

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It's sad but it appeals to our most basic evoluntionary needs - food, shelter, health, stability. We are drawn to anything that can make this possible for us. It starts off as very simple and good and descends into a pit of absolute mind controlling heartbreak that is so difficult to give up. Initially the more people fear they cannot achieve the basics, the more they ae drawn into false hopes.

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Jesus Was A Gay Man!

by minimus in

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that's what elton john has said.

he was a super intelligent gay man.

i never knew that..

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I suppose it's just a follow on from when people said that Jesus was a 'hippy'. It's just using the modern interpretation of gentle, peace-loving, accepting etc. and cloaking it in whatever we want to.