Posts by reniaa

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I finally said it...It's time for us to get divorce

by kzjw in

i asked my wife over the weekend for a divorce...1st let me say that this sight gives support for those affected by the borg - ex-jw's, ubm's etc...but it also consumes some of us.

of this i am guilty.

i have developed such a disdain for the wtbs that i can no longer have a conversation with my wife without attacking her religion.

reniaa

From what I've read on here and personal experiences the marriages that survive are the ones that the partner makes allowances for the other to make up their own minds either way. Once a person decides it's 'their way or the highway' there is little that can be done and that it true of both spouses both in and out of Jws, Those willing to let love guide them into not constantly creating ultimatum filled battlegrounds and compromising, respecting the other as a free-thinking adult end up the winners.

It's to easy to let the other person be the victim of all your pent up hatred of the org they being the most vulnerable person because they have no defence as your spouse they cannot walk away in their own home (this works both ways) it is cowardly I think to take anger out on a spouse which should truly be directed at WTs, someone on here told how they constantly humiliated their partner ripping up the blood card in their face and I felt so sorry for what they must have put their spouse through just for believing something the other didn't.

How many on here have realised they lost the love of their life because they couldn't compromise while others have been happy leaving a partner as well as Jws but in a lot of these the love in their marriage had already died well before their faith in the religion had..

I hope things go ok for you hun were there is love there is hope.

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WHY don't Americans realize GUNS are destroying their country?

by Witness 007 in

jw
friends

usa today everyone has a gun, why?.....to protect themselves...from who?

other folks with guns!.....yes it's in your laws...but they were written when the british ruled you.

one school gun killing every week does not happen anywhere else in the world....maybe you need more guns to protect your kids.....one in the lunchbox.....does anyone else see this.

reniaa

I did warn you winess 007 it's a cold place on this forum if you don't agree with the majority :) welcome my fellow troll :s

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Another fossil link found

by Caedes in

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7736786.stm.

the earliest turtles known to live in water have been discovered on a scottish island.. the 164 million-year-old reptile fossils were found on a beach in southern skye, off the uk's west coast.

the new species forms a missing link between ancient terrestrial turtles and their modern, aquatic descendants.

reniaa

What I've found difficult is evolution will have a missing link fossil found proclaim it to the world fit it nicely in their graph and then if it turns up as a living fossil swimming around the ocean they try and explain only part of it's group went on to form a new group/species while the others stayed the same for millions of years.

Evolution is post predictive they fit the finds to the theory concentrating on what fits ignoring what doesn't, Its just an alternative to faith in God in this case it's faith in creation itself, mother earth it's old religion, time is evolutionists God they say throw enough time at a thing it will change and of course you gotta learn all your ...illion words to sound authentic.

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Are YOU a Better Person Now That You're Out of the Organization?

by minimus in

jw
friends

they say that you're like a dog returning to its own vomit.

do you think that you're a better person now than you were as a witness?

reniaa

ok mouthy I was out of the Jws 10+ years I'm not a hypocrite I embraced the world and found the grass is not greener, you remain the same person but live by a different set of rules that come with their own consequences. I found the lack of spirituality my undoing in the end empty enjoyment, filling days with the next movie, the next video game the next night out always having to be bigger, better more explosive an unquencheable hunger.

Without faith your life become marked by small goals/acheivements to work towards each year, Money. food, holidays, ambitions, bars, education, love, sex. destroying wts lol all very effective in using up your time but they were never able to touch the deep need in me for more spiritual fulfillment, I crave God but I won't put up with the wrong God, I crave the chance to be more than we as humans can offer each other, transitory pleasures that are to swift in passing, I crave eternity.

I am not a better person out of the Jws I was the same person but I was empty!

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Every JW should be asked...

by Honesty in

the following 2 questions when they arrive at your door with the watchtower society's 'good news' and their jesus (the prehuman angel michael, the human jesus and a resurrected spirit creature [6/15/06 watchtower page 30]) who is 3 persons in one:.

the first question is, if you truly abstain from blood, how can you belong to a religion that allows parts of blood?.

the second question is, would you donate blood so that the fractions allowed by the watchtower society could save the life of one of your jehovah's witness brothers or sisters?.

reniaa

Fractions are personal choice they are not the whole life blood but conponents that maybe couldn't be considered life blood anymore, wisely Wts leaves it upto the individual to decide, as for giving blood I don't think the blood orgs would guarantee it would only be used for fractions. Also they would still have to take the blood in its lifeblood form from you they couldn't just take the fractions.

I await the time when a better product than blood is found and this whole debate can be shelved. I wonder how fast would people be demanding an alternative to blood if one existed thats does all that blood does without the consequences? the doctors would be first in line for themselves.

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The two reasons Witnesses think they are the Truth

by BonaFide in

jw
friends

i have had several conversations over the past few years with brothers that i know that are elders, c.o.

's, and bethelites.

one thing almost all of them have said:.

reniaa

For the record my two are...

1/ they are the only ones that worship Jehovah alone in direct accordance with the first commandment that Jehovah is only one god.

2/ preaching work, they are unique in this. mormons do it but they do not teach bible, only the book of mormon with occasional reference to bible (I once had an interesting time with a mormon many many years ago he with his book of mormon in hand, me with my bible)

For those that say the preaching work is ineffectual and results are disappointing considering the effort, therefore should be given up, it's a good job Jesus didn't feel that way when he preached considering he preached to, fed and healed thousands but in the end only 120 were available for the holy spirit after he died.

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Every JW should be asked...

by Honesty in

the following 2 questions when they arrive at your door with the watchtower society's 'good news' and their jesus (the prehuman angel michael, the human jesus and a resurrected spirit creature [6/15/06 watchtower page 30]) who is 3 persons in one:.

the first question is, if you truly abstain from blood, how can you belong to a religion that allows parts of blood?.

the second question is, would you donate blood so that the fractions allowed by the watchtower society could save the life of one of your jehovah's witness brothers or sisters?.

reniaa

Internet sex isn't covered in the bible people just use camera's but never touch yet that would be condemned by witnesses why? because it is still fornication just a new modern way of expressing it. Life blood is Gods the bible says this that is why the Jws apply the blood scriptures to transfusions to.it's as simple as that.

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WHY don't Americans realize GUNS are destroying their country?

by Witness 007 in

jw
friends

usa today everyone has a gun, why?.....to protect themselves...from who?

other folks with guns!.....yes it's in your laws...but they were written when the british ruled you.

one school gun killing every week does not happen anywhere else in the world....maybe you need more guns to protect your kids.....one in the lunchbox.....does anyone else see this.

reniaa

So guns are a safety net so you have an efficient weapon to kill other human beings and governments when the time comes?

The stats In England show take the weapons away and you get less deaths, Children do die from other things around the house like bleach and chemicals etc and you take steps to ensure safety but many accident emergency rooms show that people do fail occasionally due to human error and failure and the same applies to deadly weapons you only have to forget to lock your gun cuboard once and figures show in America that this does happen or else why do so many children die from gun accidents in America.

violence and weapons are not the answer.

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Every JW should be asked...

by Honesty in

the following 2 questions when they arrive at your door with the watchtower society's 'good news' and their jesus (the prehuman angel michael, the human jesus and a resurrected spirit creature [6/15/06 watchtower page 30]) who is 3 persons in one:.

the first question is, if you truly abstain from blood, how can you belong to a religion that allows parts of blood?.

the second question is, would you donate blood so that the fractions allowed by the watchtower society could save the life of one of your jehovah's witness brothers or sisters?.

reniaa

No blood itself is covered carla why was it so important to NT writers? when you answer that question you will understand why they applied it to blood transfusions as a principle.

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it was near, then very near, then very, very near...only once

by oompa in

***w9 71/1p.11par.18 let all glorify jehovah!

both the increasing light on bible prophecy and the anarchy of this dying world cry out that the end of satans system is very, very near!

a year or so ago they also said it was imminent....and in 1969 they swore it was just a few years away............so for a fds that claims godly direction...he sure has gotten them lost a bunch on this path to everlasting life....funny...not once did he do that to his org.

reniaa

we don't want to be caught without oil in our lamps! how many other christian faiths are preparing their people? have they given up and letting people sink into bible condemned ways?

I wonder if noah felt a little silly sat amid a lot of smelly animals in an ark with no water in sight?