Posts by reniaa

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Apostle Paul as Roman Soldier

by hamsterbait in

it was brought up in another thread that paul got his roman citizenship by serving as a soldier for at least 20 years.

this was the only way a non-italian non-roman born could do it.. i remember an illustration - in one of the big books, like "things in which it is impossible for god to lie" or "life everlasting" where saul of tarsus is pictured holding the robes of those who are stoning christians to death.. he is dressed as a roman soldier with a metal breast plate.

anybody have a scan of this?.

reniaa

Acts 23:6 (New International Version)

6 Then Paul, knowing that some of them were Sadducees and the others Pharisees, called out in the Sanhedrin, "My brothers, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee. I stand on trial because of my hope in the resurrection of the dead."

Acts 22:28
Then the commander said, "I had to pay a big price for my citizenship." "But I was born a citizen," Paul replied.

Acts 16:37
But Paul said to the officers: "They beat us publicly without a trial, even though we are Roman citizens, and threw us into prison. And now do they want to get rid of us quietly? No! Let them come themselves and escort us out."

The bible shows paul was a trained pharasee under a famous teacher also his dad was one too but Paul was also born a Roman citizen which means his dad will have done something to attain roman citizenship which is then passed onto the children. In the scripture above the commander talks of having bought his citizenship. In those times there were a few ways to get the desired Roman citizenship not least of which is buying it with anough money but the scriptures do not mention how Pauls dad acquired it.

Jewish tradition talks of Paul being a tentmaker before he studied to be a rabbi pharasee.

Reniaa

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Who is the ruler of this world?

by PSacramento in

ok, so my mom sneaked a wt literature into my kids pack when they stayed at her home on tuesday, the one that says that satan is the ruler of this world.. so my little one sofia shows me and says, "see daddy, satan is ruling this world".. i take a look and read the literature and i tell me little one that, "no honey, while satan can and does try to influence us and succeds many times, god is all powerful and god gace to his son jesus, all the authority in heaven and on earth" and i showed her the passage from matthew.. a also told her that, why we must never forget that satan tempts us that he has no power over us, other then the power we give him, jesus is our lord and all power rests in him.. of course, today when i dropped her and her little sister at my mom's ( she likes them to come over on tuesday's and thursday's), she was ready to ask if i had read that pamphlet, which i said i did, and of course she replied how satan is the ruler of this system of things.. i countered that i know only one lord and that is the son of god jesus, and i know only one god and no one else rules above them and asked my mom where in the bible does it show jesus and god subject to satan.. as you can imagine, that went over well !!.

lmao !.

i bring this up because of the thread on john 12:31.. .

reniaa

the bible doesn't contradict itself it is very clear to those that read it. God and Jesus his son have authority but Satan has been allowed to have control of the current age/system/world till Jesus comes and sorts him out, as the true ruler given rulership overall by his father.

It just takes reading the bible in context.

but for the sake of this debate Jesus himself called satan the 'ruler of this world." so the scripture is there

Reniaa

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Who is the ruler of this world?

by PSacramento in

ok, so my mom sneaked a wt literature into my kids pack when they stayed at her home on tuesday, the one that says that satan is the ruler of this world.. so my little one sofia shows me and says, "see daddy, satan is ruling this world".. i take a look and read the literature and i tell me little one that, "no honey, while satan can and does try to influence us and succeds many times, god is all powerful and god gace to his son jesus, all the authority in heaven and on earth" and i showed her the passage from matthew.. a also told her that, why we must never forget that satan tempts us that he has no power over us, other then the power we give him, jesus is our lord and all power rests in him.. of course, today when i dropped her and her little sister at my mom's ( she likes them to come over on tuesday's and thursday's), she was ready to ask if i had read that pamphlet, which i said i did, and of course she replied how satan is the ruler of this system of things.. i countered that i know only one lord and that is the son of god jesus, and i know only one god and no one else rules above them and asked my mom where in the bible does it show jesus and god subject to satan.. as you can imagine, that went over well !!.

lmao !.

i bring this up because of the thread on john 12:31.. .

reniaa

2 Corinthians 4:4 (New American Standard Bible)

4 in whose case (A) the god of (B) this world has (C) blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the (D) light of the gospel of the (E) glory of Christ, who is the (F) image of God.

John 12:31 (New American Standard Bible)

31 " (A) Now judgment is upon this world; now (B) the ruler of this world will be cast out.

Ephesians 2:2 (New International Version)

2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

2 Timothy 2:26 (New International Version)

26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

Reniaa

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Who is the ruler of this world?

by PSacramento in

ok, so my mom sneaked a wt literature into my kids pack when they stayed at her home on tuesday, the one that says that satan is the ruler of this world.. so my little one sofia shows me and says, "see daddy, satan is ruling this world".. i take a look and read the literature and i tell me little one that, "no honey, while satan can and does try to influence us and succeds many times, god is all powerful and god gace to his son jesus, all the authority in heaven and on earth" and i showed her the passage from matthew.. a also told her that, why we must never forget that satan tempts us that he has no power over us, other then the power we give him, jesus is our lord and all power rests in him.. of course, today when i dropped her and her little sister at my mom's ( she likes them to come over on tuesday's and thursday's), she was ready to ask if i had read that pamphlet, which i said i did, and of course she replied how satan is the ruler of this system of things.. i countered that i know only one lord and that is the son of god jesus, and i know only one god and no one else rules above them and asked my mom where in the bible does it show jesus and god subject to satan.. as you can imagine, that went over well !!.

lmao !.

i bring this up because of the thread on john 12:31.. .

reniaa

1 John 5:19
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

Revelation 12:9
The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Reniaa

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What do you know "without googling" about the reputed mechanisms for evolution?

by gubberningbody in

jw
friends

i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .

reniaa

"There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias." - Public Library of Science/Medicine

With that having been said, we must now look at what an ERV does exactly. Basically, it distorts and deteriorates genetic information in germ cells and that distortion is propogated from generation to generation. The question then as it relates to evolution is, "How does an increase in the distortion and deterioration of DNA's genetic code amount to an improvement of that code?". Well, it seems that it would not improve anything at all but rather the opposite. So, the very thing that you say proves evolution actually is something which proves only the deterioration of genetic code and not the enhancement of it as would be required to prove an upwards evolutionary trend in complexity. In your example of a proof for evolution, you have actually made a move towards proving the opposite.

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What do you know "without googling" about the reputed mechanisms for evolution?

by gubberningbody in

jw
friends

i see people take positions all day long and i rather suspect both sides are woefully ignorant.. i read and hear people speak of the volumes of data pro or con and when i ask for specific examples of what each may be referring to, i am often met with silence.. .

reniaa

I don't think you need a deep understanding of the subject to reject it. Evolutionists can blind you with information but that doesn't prove their theories are right. A lot of information is based on the unobserved past that they have theorised from evidence they look at now, from the position that evolution is fact.

SO they are fitting the pieces into a already drawn Jigsaw but to be fair christians that believe in God are doing the same.

If people could present proof of abiogenesis then I might listen but beyond that not really interesting. I made the mistake once of researching ervs this apparently fantastic proof of evolution but while you can find some supposed correlation between apes and man there are none between fish and man or birds and man which there would be if all creatures are linked by common ancesters not just the nearby ones.

Reniaa

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Why are people so offended by this?

by desib77 in

jw
friends

i've been doing a lot of thinking and have been leaning toward a new conclusion about god.

i'm thinking that i believe in his existance but think that he does not play an active role in our lives.

he does not cause evil but also does not bless...... what do you think?.

reniaa

deism - belief in a disinterested God! not for me I prefer the hope that my God cares enough to want to save us from ourselves.

Reniaa

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WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

by yknot in

so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

reniaa

Mark 13:14 (New International Version)

14 "When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' [a] standing where it [b] does not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

We have a twofold prophecy in the bible were both Rome and UN are said to be the abominations by the Jws intepretation of scripture, so according to our doctrine Paul dealing with Rome as an authority is the same as Jws dealing with UN as an authority.

Daniel 9:27 (New International Version)

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' [a] In the middle of the 'seven' [b] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. [c] " [d]

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WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

by yknot in

so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

reniaa

NGO DPI - department of information gnat issue compared to Christendom telling leaders what laws they should or shouldn't do and having political candidates etc.

Do we condemn Paul for his involvement with Rome being a roman citizen and using this to appeal to Rome the UN of his day?

Reniaa

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This Bible passage has always bothered me.......

by palmtree67 in

this is one of 2 bible passages that have always bothered me.. its from judges 19: (the entire chapter, so i will paraphrase.).

a levite marries himself a concubine.

she's unfaithful and goes back home.

reniaa

Mankind is brutal! it was true of then and equally true now.

When we goto war these days governments including our own allow for 'exceptable losses' of the innocent. we haven't changed we just can pretend the slaughter doesn't happen because we don't have to see it, just press a button.

Reniaa