Posts by ataloa

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DIASSOCIATED NO WHERE TO GO LOST AND BROKEN

by DonaLeigh in

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dls.

ataloa

Hi DonaLeigh and Welcome.

I'm sorry your wounds are so fresh. You have done a very courageous thing and are paying a heavy price with the loss of the association of your daughter. Believe it or not, the anger can be worked through in time. It has taken a long time for me but I've been able to make a lot of peace with it. (Some anger still leaks out when I read other people's stories of injustice though)

What you said is true. They have no mercy or compassion - no heart at all. I also long for christian love as described in the bible. So many of us were hoodwinked into believing that that was the place it would be found. I am new here too. And I've just decided to take my time. I don't need to have all the answers yet. But there will be plenty of help here when I really want to start asking some hard questions.

Your life is not ruined; it seems that way now. And they did take some of the best years of our lives. But sometimes losing everything makes us have the courage to do things we wouldn't otherwise ever have done, when there's nothing left to lose. I can truthfully say I've had the most love and the best time of my life these last several years I've been out. All that was missing was being lost spiritually, but since I found this board I'm starting to have hope for that again.

Please do share more of your story with us when you feel comfortable. We are going to be okay.

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songs that help you cry....

by wings in

jw
friends

no matter how much you want to avoid it...crying is necessary sometimes.

for me, i need help with it....too many distractions in my life.

i almost have to plan crying....so for me music aides in releasing emotion, helps me just be me for an interval of time.

ataloa

I was going to suggest "Everybody Hurts" but I see Nicolas beat me to it. Here is the Corrs version, just because I like the Corrs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDtOtUyRQ8Q

This probably won't work because I haven't tried this before and I don't know how to edit either. But anyway, I hope you feel better. It does help to go ahead and cry.

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I didn't know where to say Hi - so here I am

by rustonmyhalo in

jw
friends

i don't know why i am always led back to jw's.

tonight i feel real confused.

i was searching the internet to try to find some evidence that jesus existed and that all religion is not just some great hoax.

ataloa

I cannot step into any KH nor any churches - so for 11 years i have just lived on the outside loving God and feeling guilty because i cant follow the command to associate lol always thinking (Im a dog who returned to its vomit) I think I am going to let all that go now :)

This is the same way I have felt for seven years.

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I didn't know where to say Hi - so here I am

by rustonmyhalo in

jw
friends

i don't know why i am always led back to jw's.

tonight i feel real confused.

i was searching the internet to try to find some evidence that jesus existed and that all religion is not just some great hoax.

ataloa

Hi rustonmyhalo and welcome. I love your name.

11 years? That's a long time to keep it in. Glad you found this board. I'm fairly new too, and look forward to hearing your story. After reading this board, you still won't know what to believe about the bible, but you will get a lot of different viewpoints and that's a good thing.

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Zany Questions from Board Members to Wacky Terry

by Terry in

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friends

okay, go ahead and make my day: ask me anything!.

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ataloa

What does digderidoo do with all that dairy doo he digs?

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Zany Questions from Board Members to Wacky Terry

by Terry in

jw
friends

okay, go ahead and make my day: ask me anything!.

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ataloa

Why can't anyone pronounce that first r in ornery, even if they're not from the south?

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Faders: When You Left, did Anyone Give a Damn?

by shamus100 in

jw
friends

it seems funny to hear how some get love bombed, others get left alone when they fade.

i moved and told nobody - by the time they figured i was 'weak', it was too late - i was gone.

so honestly, what was it like for you when you left the 'organization'?

ataloa

LearningMore, you really did hit everything just right, didn't you?

I'm sure it was a big relief to the elders when I stopped going. I wouldn't shut up about all the things going on that were not right, and they were never willing to talk to me privately about my concerns.

Once my BS conductor was making the rounds visiting everyone in the study. On my night, I called him and told him what I wanted to discuss and exactly where it was in the awake magazine. He said he would read it right then. That night, when I tried to bring it up, he cut me off cold and went on to deliver his cookie-cutter, one-size-fits-all sermon he had prepared. Made my blood boil.

I left right after that, and several months later he stopped by the house out of the blue and my husband let him in. I just left the room. I'm sure he went back and told everyone I wouldn't accept help. That was his standard answer for everything. I moved away and never had to run into any of them in town.

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The Brooklyn pen pushers have blood ink wells.

by edmond dantes in

considering that the bible is not infallible and certainly not a medical reference book is it wise and safe to interpret the drinking of blood as the same as the tranfusing of blood and because it is a life and death matter wouldn't jesus accept the principal of "you must not kill" as the overiding principle in the matter?.

because the leaders of the new world society have been wrong on so many occasions is it not sensible to accept the best possible medical advice during a critical medical situation?.

have the rank and file no common sense at all or do they put their faith in mere mens instructions who have had no medical training whatsoever and isn't it about time they started thinking and standing up for themselves?.

ataloa

I see the command to abstain from blood the same as the one about stealing.

It goes to motive.

If food is plentiful, a worshiper would never think of eating blood or stealing food.

It is different for people who do these things when they don't need to, just because they want to.

If there was a famine, those same men who disfellowshiped you for taking a transfusion would be at the nearest peanut patch taking something they didn't work for and does not belong to them. They are not going to starve.

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So it happened...I met with my Mom and Dad...

by Confession in

brief historical recounting.... 3rd generation of 4 generation jw family.

elder for three years.

realized "the truth" wasn't in september of 2004. tried to fade by moving from michigan to southern california in june of 2005 with my (then) 17 year old daughter (who eventually left the organization herself.

ataloa

I'm so glad it went well for you, confession. I read your beautiful letter. It was excellently put together.

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-08-08 WT Study (GUIDANCE)

by blondie in

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friends

god's guidance = only the guidance of the wts/fds/gb.

when, though, do we need that guidance?

god's guidance = wts/fds/gb guidance.

ataloa

notice that only "believing" parents are a God-ordained authority.

I never knew this was their official stance on that. I certainly never got that from the Bible.

I knew of a teenager who had a widowed "worldly" mother. The elders let him get baptized over her protests. I just knew that was so wrong. IMO he should have been counseled to wait until he was of age, knowing God would certainly see what was in his heart.

Thanks, Blondie. Great job.