sacoltom, if they refused it because its apostate, I would respond with, Thats control of information, where is your free will to examine things for yourself. What are you afraid of?
cawshun
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Have any of you just handed the book COC to a jw friend or relative?
by cawshun inif so, how did it go over, good or bad?
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Have any of you just handed the book COC to a jw friend or relative?
by cawshun inif so, how did it go over, good or bad?
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cawshun
lw, how long ago? I was thinking on handing it to my son-in-law so I would see his reaction? Just not sure if its the right way to go.
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Have any of you just handed the book COC to a jw friend or relative?
by cawshun inif so, how did it go over, good or bad?
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cawshun
If so, how did it go over, good or bad?
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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,
by cawshun indo the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?
do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?
if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.
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possible-san
Thank you. I really don't think my son-in-law really totally loves the truth. I think he loves the idea of everlasting life on paradise earth and he feels he is doing what is right to give his children everlasting life.
I would not want to damage his pride, but at the same time, I can't bear the fact that he is raising my grand-kids under the WT's mind controlling cult. I am more worried about them being damaged like so many I have read about here.
I am learning from all of you here on what not to do, how not to approach him, it will take me time to think things out.
I am not sure about this, but I was really thinking about giving him Raymond Franz's book this summer when he is on vacation and has time to read it. I will just tell him I saw it on Amazon.com and it looked interesting to me. I bought it, read it, and I think he would find it very enlightening and interesting. If they get mad at me, I'll just tell them I don't know what it is their afraid of. I'm just so tired of trying to find way's to reach them without them getting upset. They can either read the book or throw it away. Maybe they will just put it up on a shelf and them get courious one day and decide to look through it.
I still have a lot to learn. There are so many brilliant minds on this forum and I'm so impressed with all the wisdom and research that is here to help those of us that are struggling with the wt and our families.
Many thanks
cawshun
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Change in Regular Pioneer application process
by Ultimate Reality inthis week a letter is being read that changes the process for the approval of regular pioneers.
in times past you had to fill out an application, submit it to the elder body (who would then add their comments), and it would be forwarded to "the branch" for approval.. this is being changed so that the elder body grants the approval instead of brooklyn or the local branch.
it looks like the lawyers are removing any and all direct contact between the rank-and-file and the gb.
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cawshun
Are they seperating the sheep from the old goats?
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I have a question, do the JW' still believe that....,
by cawshun indo the jw's still believe that they were chosen by jesus as god's one true religion, by what charles russel taught?
do they stand on that or do they feel they were chosen later under rutherford?
if they accept that russel was chosen and rutherford changed things up, wouldn't rutherford be an apostate?.
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cawshun
possible-san, thank you for the link godpresence within, some very important dates there and very useful. When I see how contradicting the WT is, it is unbelievable they can get away with it.
Thanks again
cawshun
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Is there proof somewhere that when a KH is sold...,
by cawshun inis there some place to prove that when a congregation donates time, work, materials, ect... to build a kh, that when it get's sold the money goes to the wts corporation and not back to the congregation that built it through donations?.
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cawshun
Great Information, thanks everyone, so appreciated!
cawshun
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Is there proof somewhere that when a KH is sold...,
by cawshun inis there some place to prove that when a congregation donates time, work, materials, ect... to build a kh, that when it get's sold the money goes to the wts corporation and not back to the congregation that built it through donations?.
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cawshun
Thanks for the information everyone, I really appreciate it!
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Newbie *waves*
by Phee inhiya.... .
i've been lurking here for over a year...(on the old forum and then this one)...i also post on several other forums.... got a long story, but i won't go into that right now.. some of you know me from the other sites, just figured this was a natural progression into apostahood to register here.
see ya'll 'round!.
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cawshun
Thank you Phee for sharing your story. It just sickens me to think this creep got away with this abuse, how sad for you. I'm glad you are feeling stronger now and have a happy life,
I would love to see stories like this in popular magazines like Cosmo, Glamour, and Teen magazines. It may wake the public up to what the WTS is really about.
I have read stories about rape in these magazines but never commited by jw's. I wish your story could be told on Oprah, and other talk shows.
It is just too shameful that these guys get away with this.
Best Wishes in your new life.
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Paradise Won't Be "Instant"
by cameo-d ini have heard that "paradise" will be achieved gradually; that it will take all of the thousand years to reach that state of perfection.. .
now, while you may be convinced that it will take all that time to bring the earth back to it's pristine state....suppose it applies to humans as well?.
imagine this scenerio: wounds and broken bones heal slowly and gradually; your bags and sags are still there, but since you have seen results of other people, you hang on that the promise will be for you, too.
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I wonder if Jehovah led man to stem cells to rejuvinate our bodies, they are claiming to cure so many illnesses with stem cells, maybe grow new tissue, skin, hair... .