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  LDS statistics, by extension, may suggest that the JWs could be bigger with a more engaged membership.

  by joe134cd in

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  i was just watching this on you tube, about the growth of the lds church.

  i think these numbers may support a number of theories that have been discussed on here.

  (1) the jws are bigger as a religious organisation.. (2) jw membership is more engaged, as well as, more ethnically diverse.. (3) wt is been honest with its counting.

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  bullshit

  In 2012, the National Council of Churches ranked the church as the fourth-largest Christian denomination in the United States,[8] with over 6.5 million members there as of January 2018.[9]
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  Losr Tevenue

  by Lostandfound in

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  with no meetings for donationx how is wt funding itself.

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  The WTS has hundreds of millions tucked away in bank accounts collecting interest.

  JWs are fooled by the GB men who say they need more money, even children's candy money.

  These men are pretentious liars and deceivers, never doubt that.
  
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  To whom are the JWS faithfully loyal to Jehovah or the Watchtower Corporation and the men who run it ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  an poignant question which might make a few jws a bit uncomfortable.. the words of jesus said that no one knows of the time of his return not the ancient israelites or the first era christians and jesus admonished those who would set a time upon god's own sacred time.. words spoken by jesus that certain men failed to adhere to who self proclaimed preachers of the gospel.. the executive leaders of the watchtower corporation (gb) have said that they were the faith slave to jesus fulfilling his instructions to spread the word of the new system of things.

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  yet over the past 140 years the wts and the men who have been running that organization have been endeavoring false prophets, selling a tainted corrupt version of the gospel through the literature these men published.

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  An poignant question which might make a few JWS a bit uncomfortable.

  The words of Jesus said that no one knows of the time of his return not the ancient Israelites or the first era Christians and Jesus admonished those who would set a time upon god's own sacred time.

  Words spoken by Jesus that certain men failed to adhere to who self proclaimed preachers of the Gospel.

  The executive leaders of the Watchtower Corporation (GB) have said that they were the Faith Slave to Jesus fulfilling his instructions to spread the word of the new system of things.

  Yet over the past 140 years the WTS and the men who have been running that organization have been endeavoring false prophets, selling a tainted corrupt version of the gospel through the literature these men published.
  
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  How Is The Governing Body Viewed Today By Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  are they revered like the pope is to catholics??

  back in the 1960s , fred franz and n.h knorr were the only men that counted.

  after franz died, the governing body became more of an idolized entity.

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  In the past the Presidents and GB members were not highlighted individuals even though they carried much power and weight to what went on at WTS HQ and the writing department.

  Now that they've come out and said they alone are the FDSL and are seen continuously on JWorg video broadcasts, they are even more adorned, glorified than any other time in the organization's history .

  The past or present GB members were not true bible interpreters, they were and are corrupt lying charlatans trying increase the WTS's own literature distribution for as its known the JWS organization has a religoius publishing house operating at its core.
  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Started By Christiandom

  by mrquik in

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  a little background first.

  my first father- in-law, levi peterson was born in 1889. he personally knew rutherford.

  he started the newark, ny congregation.

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  The reality is the JWS got started in false religion as commercialized false prophets preaching a tainted and unscriptural Gospel of Jesus and his new kingdom order.

  This carried on right through from the beginning of the 20th century to its end and still pretty much does so today. Unfortunately the JWS leaders (GB) are negligent in removing theses false doctrines, in fear that the membership would crumble underneath itself, they still teach and profess that the GT and Armageddon is just around the corner.

  These specific doctrines were an essential part of luring people to the organization and they know that.
  
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  Any suggestions

  by Xena73 in

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  i just woke up and i'm new on here.

  if your an unbaptized publisher can you be disfellowshipped or dissociated?

  please send me a message.

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  You cant be DFed or DA if you no longer want to participate in the religion ie. stop going all together.

  My advise just to make it easier on yourself just bow out quietly and respectfully.

  
  
  
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  The Myth About Jehovah as a "GOD of LOVE".

  by smiddy3 in

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  i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.

  2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.

  4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.

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  The envisioned gods from ancient civilizations had many variations of character some were powerful and vengeful some were loving, giving even motherly in character.

  They had one thing in common though is that they were constructs of imagination and ignorance expressed by humans who were enduring ignorant of the world in which they lived .

  Human ignorance is an indefensible fact.
  
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  Does God listen and answer prayers for coronavirus patients?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  my cousin has been in a medically induced coma for the last three weeks due to the coronavirus.

  we just found out today that he was sent to rehab for physical therapy.

  he is awake, cannot walk, and cannot talk due to damage to his vocal cords from being on a ventilator for three weeks.. my cousin has many religious friends who have posted ''get well soon'' messages on his facebook page.

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  Talking to ancient mythological creatures isn't going to do anything but give a momentary relief of stress and anxiety.

  Nature is the god of the universe and we have to deal with the best we can, such as battling contagious health destroying viruses.
  
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  Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

  by AlainAlam in

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  do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

  as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

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  Good point Jeff to add to that the top leaders of the WTS weren't delusional about their perceived awareness of power and money they held in their hands and the control they had over people, that energized them even more to sustain and extend what they had, which included lying and bullshitting to the body of members . ie.1975
  

  Much of the personal stature and identity of these men were composed of self glorification, the most righteous among men, god's own chosen ones
  
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  Why did Jehovah choose the leaders of the WTS who were scripturaly apostate false prophet sinners ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  quite the contravening question to contemplate for any self avowed devoted jws, which no doubt takes some uncomfortable thinking to consider.. yes back in 1919 the then president of the jws j. rutherford proclaimed that the organization (ibsa, jws) had been selectively chosen by jesus for their unique preaching and evangelical work.. there had already been a proclamation by the past leader of the (wts) ibsa c. russell that he was the faithful slave doing the lords work, will and purpose, but his professing doctrines were also false bible interpretations based upon the theology of pyramidology.. might it be that these men made these proclamations out of the intent of self validating themselves and the literature that they had published and were trying to proliferate ?

  making these kind of claims was easy since there was no higher governing body to evaluate these men's endeavors from a theological standing, the american government had opened the door for any individual's self expression of a religious nature.

  so anyone in that country could build up their own religoius following unimpeded, even more so if that religion was christian based.. so the real critical question remains how or why would jesus pick these men when their doctrines were so obviously false and probably devised more so from a commercialization agenda ?.

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  A WT answer would be because they had honest hearts and were seeking the correct doctrines although they had not yet worked it all out.

  It would appear that the WTS heads weren't seeking out bible truths in reflection of the organization persistent Jesus has returned (1914) Armageddon soon doctrines which were proliferated all throughout the 20th century.
  

  They had the true heart of commercialization comprised of building up their own power and money as an established religious publishing house, the proclamation of them being god's selectively chosen ones was just a self supporting marketing gimmick or strategy to lure people to their literature and the organization.

  Want to understand and truthfully interpret the bible the word of god , come to us and will show and tell you, its all in are literature.