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ok everyone, just some fun here - no i haven't got wind of any change in the pipeline but, if the watchtower bible and tract society were to ditch the name watchtower altogether, what would they call the watchtower magazine instead?
all suggestions warmly welcomed......
I think they'd probably have to highlight the heavenly class a bit more - since they like to do that anyway:
The Lamp of the Anointed .....(Getting Brighter with each Generation)
New Understandings .....(Highlighting Jehovah's Kingdom and the 144,000 rules that we made up)
ha, ha. Well, we know they got lots of man-made rules so I thought I'd get the 144,000 in their sort of subliminally).
jw's think they are doing a work just like noah did before the flood.
they say that noah's witness lasted for 40 years.
other than a few traders who moved around, i doubt that most tribal people would be able to safely travel to see noah's work in progress.
I'm amazed at the different opinions among active JW's. There obviously isn't unity in how they perceive Noah's day. My mom just told me last week that the people weren't all bad in Noah's day. I disagreed and reminded her that the scriptures brought out that their thoughts were bad all of the time and God felt regrets over having made man. Would he have had regrets if just some of them were bad? I think the WT pushes the scenario that they were going about their normal lives and just didn't heed Noah's warning. But the scriptures state that he had already decided to wipe man off the earth and preserve Noah and his family, so what would be the point of warning them if they were already condemned?
watchtower policies clearly make women second-class citizens.
i don't see it changing anytime soon.
this thread is not about how ridiculous it is that a female is not allowed to hand out mags, territory, books or carry a microphone if a qualified male is present.
I'm very delighted that as a sister I'd never, ever have to say a prayer for everyone. That seems like such a difficult and embarassing task. I know it must take practice to get the right balance of showing thankfulness, asking forgiveness, mentioning relevent events or difficulties, etc. And when the prayer didn't flow well or someone paused for an embarrassing length, I said my own little prayer of thankfulness that it wasn't me at that podium!
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if so, how often.. do you still attend the memorial?.
i never go, ever, and haven't been to a memorial in about 6 years (been too long to accurately remember) - i'm too far gone.
We're down to about 2 Sundays a month. Our JW friends are helping our fade by pretty much ignoring us already. (Thanks guys) Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.
nwt gen 6: 2. then the sons of the [true] god began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves namely, all whom they choose.. where did these angels get their sexual urges from?.
that's one of those biblical accounts that creeped me out when I was younger. I can still remember the drawing in one of the books showing the angels peeking out from the clouds lusting at the women. Nothing like planting the image of peeping tom angels in a young girl's mind!
And they took the form of men - I thought it was always God's spirit that empowered them to do things so how did they have creative abilities all of a sudden?
Shouldn't God have stepped in and said "No way this is natural or what I intended" and stopped them all before their were offspring!?!?
It all seems so ludicrous now.
much, much healthier.
being a jw takes it's toll on people's physical and mental health.
jw's are always sick.
wow. Brilliant. I'm new here so this is the first V comments I've seen. I'd never seen that article about the Irish clergy before. I'll be using that little gem. Thanks for all your work.
i've never been a jw, so i'm curious exactly what drives a witness?
is it the fear of possibly not making it through armageddon that motivates them to do more, do more, do more??
our relative just starting pioneering.
1 - constant pressure to exert themselves vigorously
2 - status recognition
3 - love and appreciation for God? vindication of his name?? - not so much. More likely it's just wanting something else from God, which is to live forever in paradise.
The more I think about what my own motivation was, it really comes down to what I wanted from it all. I can appreciate and be thankful that I was created. Be grateful for the things I have. Heck, I know at some point I felt close enough to God to dedicate myself to him. But how much did I do things out of love for God? If I'm honest with myself, it's most likely I did it for the carrot dangling in front of me - paradise. If you see everything as temporary, then the promise of shortly being in a perfect world is a strong motivator.
i guess i'm just looking around for other parents experiencing similar situations as i am -while being df'd and having little family support!.
my oldest (9 yr old) son is asperger's (highly functioning autistic) and ocd.
i worked really hard with him through behavioral therapy and medication and he is doing so well.
Hi milli. I feel for ya. You have your hands FULL. It makes it all the more challenging when your child looks normal physically but has developmental/social issues. It's sad that so many children have these things to deal with. And its hard for the parents cuz they don't know what is going on in their kid's brain most of the time. My son is nearly 6 and he's on a waiting list to be reviewed. I'm hoping they are able to diagnose him but in reality, I think he's still a bit young and probably won't fit into one syndrome. I also have an active 2 year old running amok.
I too don't have ANY family around so hubby and I rarely get a break from them. It doesn't help that we're attending meetings less so I won't be using the young sisters that I normally would to babysit. I think us moms have to find a reliable sitter and get out of the house once a week to keep our sanity!!
after seeing h4o's thread today (about hassans book), i decided to open up this one.
i have only been out of the org since 3-29-08 so i have a lot of reading this past month and a half.... i'm halfway through reading the "signs of the last days" book.
in some ways it has impacted me more than some of the others i have read.. as i read cofc, for example, i could see that the inner workings of the gb showed that there were not spirit guided but very misguided.... as i read isofcf i could see logical biblical arguments that refuted jw syances on blood, holidays, jesus, etc.... i read the gentile times reconsidered, and was very impressed with the logic about 587 bce.
Hi Awakened. Wow - I thought I was spending a lot of time reading but you have me beat by a longshot! I read "Signs of the Last Days" right after COC. It was fascinating to see all the data that he collected. I always suspected that our generation wasn't special with all the signs that the WT likes to stress over and over. I mean, come on, 2 Tim. 3: 1-5...People have been violent, liars and worse since the first pages of Genesis. And thinking back to history classes in school, the world spent hundreds of years fighting over colonies and land. Famines and plagues were devastating and would kill over half the population. Carl's book is very fascinating. He's compiled lots of figures and analyses. I should reread it cuz I devoured it rather quickly the first time. I think he mentioned also how it's only been recently that the population has really doubled in size or something like that. Mainly due to serious diseases being alleviated but also because the child mortality rate was...insane...I'm not sure what word I'm looking for. I could never understand how common and accepted it was that half the siblings of my grandparents and great grandparents never survived past childhood and women died in childbirth quite frequently. I feel grateful for living in this time period after contemplating Carl's book and what life was like for people down through the ages. Pre-1914 doesn't sound like no picnic to me.
Love your posts, A@G
